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Their keeper did well and should've had a few goals from Zlatan and Pogba, but yeah, something about the attack just isn't clicking. I wonder when Mourinho will consider dropping Pogba or changing his position, because he's not contributing a great deal right now. We do have other options in central midfield that we're just not using (Carrick, Schneiderlin) so there's it's not like he has to play there.

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Howard Webb is a really poor addition to the BT Sport coverage.  His habit is to come down very strongly on one side or another of a margin call then just double-down on it and dismiss any possibility that he could be wrong, or that anyone else could have a different opinion.  Completely in character for every referee on the planet.  They're a strange breed.  

 

The Herrera challange is not a "definite" red card.  Two players went in for a waist-high bouncing ball, and he was second to it, and seemed to pull out when he realised he had caught the player.  It looks worse in slow-motion.  It could go either way whether it's a red or a yellow, but it's not a "definite" one either way.

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I'd say our next run of games could be quite season defining, we've got Liverpool, Fenerbache, Chelsea and City in a 6 day period. That's going to be some pretty heavy going.

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Mourinho won't like what Rooney had to say yesterday. He sounds like he genuinely believes he's a better midfielder than Pogba, Herrera, Carrick. The man is a confused mess and needs to go. Thanks, Wayne, but you outlived your usefulness while Ferguson was boss.

 

Edit - forgot about Schweinsteiger! I'd have him in midfield before Rooney. Not Fellaini though.

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A few things stood out. 

 

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“Everyone else can say what they think, or what they think they know, but me, the manager and the players know what is required to do well.

 

'or what they think they know'

 

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“I have heard a lot of people talking about transition – well, let me do it. If that is what’s going to happen, let me do that. I feel I am not being given a chance if that is the way I want to go in my career to expand it.

 

“I am not being given that chance to go from there to there [attack to midfield]. It is all right talking about your career, saying you can extend it by doing this and that, but you need to be given the chance to do it.”

 

Hasn't he been playing midfield for several years now? 

 

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“there will come a time, if I’m not playing, I might have to be a bit more selfish in terms of where I want to play and making that clear”.

 

Didn't he just say

 

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“Sam came out and said I play where I want. I played exactly to instructions, and what was asked of me. I’ll play wherever the manager wants me. I don’t pick myself, I haven’t ever picked myself. I didn’t come in and say: ‘I want to play here or there.’ 

 

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“It was over the top. I played in deep midfield and I thought, being honest, I actually did quite well, especially in the second half. I helped control the game. 

 

Wasn't it 0-0 for nearly all of it, with few chances created? 

 

Anyway, the stoke game, united dominated the first half but second half struggled to get into the final third. Wasn't pushing them back. It was just..nothing and i don't know why. Was wondering if Neville explained it,..or Michael Cox. Anyone. The subs changed the game immediately, but was wondering if that was purely psychological, or whether positionally things changed, martial for lingard is a straight swap, Rooney for mata too. Straight away united were getting down the right wing. Once one chance was created more flowed, but stoke held united at bay for 20 minutes. I gather Mark Hughes did, said something at half time but I'm more bothered by how United couldn't get through. Against Leicester too there was a drop off. 

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1 hour ago, ckny said:

Mourinho won't like what Rooney had to say yesterday. He sounds like he genuinely believes he's a better midfielder than Pogba, Herrera, Carrick. The man is a confused mess and needs to go. Thanks, Wayne, but you outlived your usefulness while Ferguson was boss.

 

Edit - forgot about Schweinsteiger! I'd have him in midfield before Rooney. Not Fellaini though.

 

I have to agree, he needs to leave if he wants to play regular football because at the moment I don't see how he gets in the team. And you'd have to assume we'll only strengthen even more, if not January then the summer.

 

Plus. I kind of don't want him to break the goal scoring record...

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We don't even need him to be the poster boy anymore either. Pogba and Ibra have the global profile and Rashford is the new English hope. I hope he has the sense to move to MLS soon before he damages his legacy beyond repair.

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It amuses me to think of Rooney when comparing him to Ronaldinho, in that he had a period of actual genuine genius, some of the greatest performances and moments in football history, who to a lot of Barcelona fans is still the greatest showman and whom Messi and co haven't matched because for all their economical brilliance, with Ronaldinho it was; how did you even think to do that, you madman. Yet after 3 amazing years, he had a season of partying, was overweight, lost focus, lacked dedication in training, was in rapid decline, was immediately discarded with. One season ! While blighted by injuries. His stature for the Brazil team wained too, a few appearances each year, 3 years without a goal, 1 goal in 5 years when in his late 20s, early 30s. But that's only one of the greatest players in history, who produced magic every week, a genius with the ball, obviously Rooney is something else entirely and a special case. With Ronaldinho it was; yeah maybe a new challenge is needed, the time here has ended. Barcelona promoted other great players, Brazil promoted Neymar. But not United and not England.

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It's definitely a game for Carrick, and we need to have players in the back four who won't panic under pressure. One way to play against a team that plays the way Liverpool do is to be very organised at the back, park the bus and look to hurt them on the break. Martial and Rashford could be very useful in that regard. If we can reduce them to long range efforts from Coutinho, that would be handy. Although he's pretty good at those long range efforts.

 

However we set out to play, I can't see us having the confidence and quality to execute the game plan anyway. I'd be delighted with a draw.

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