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3 minutes ago, feltmonkey said:

We look alright when the front three get involved, but we're not getting it to them enough, and when we do we're not supporting them, so they're having to do everything on their own.

 

Well we do have a midfield 3 of Fellaini, Matic and Herrera. Not the most mobile!

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No, so you have to assume it's a deliberate tactic to hope Rashford, Martial, and Lingard can make something happen on their own.  We could really do with Pogba joining in from midfield.  The full-backs are getting forward, but it's not enough to break down the City defence.

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Matic is excellent though.  He's not the quickest, and sharp players might play round him at times, but he sees danger very early, and remains calm.  He makes a lot of important defensive interceptions.  Him and Fellaini in the same midfield limits our effectiveness on the ball, and I'd like to see Mata come on for Fellaini, but that's not likely to happen.  Mourinho will still see Fellaini as one of our most likely routes to an equaliser.

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We’re just total shit these days. No excuses. Individually, some of our players are really talented, but they don’t work well as a team, the manager is a petulant baby and his tactics are outdated, the people in charge of recruitment aren’t arsed about the club or the kind of football we play as long as it’s generating profit as a business. It’s a mess to the core and it’s mental to think they’ve let it slip to this while watching City practically build a football devoted village on the other side of the city. I hope things begin to get put right and removing Mourinho is the start.

 

It’s so depressing being a United supporter at the moment. I really struggle to find any positives.

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On 11/11/2018 at 18:45, JPL said:

removing Mourinho is the start.

 

It’s so depressing being a United supporter at the moment. I really struggle to find any positives.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAQHQHHQHQHAHAJELWLOSJDND

 

Hate to say I told you so. Nah, I love it really.

 

Mourinho is the cancer of football. 

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It's been mentioned by everyone by now in the media so..everyone already is aware of it..but perhaps they could let Mourinho know that if you have conceded more goals than you have scored it kind of means you're not succeeding in being defence first, attack second. Because if you look at Man City, they've scored 36, let in 5. If you keep the ball it means the other team doesn't have it, and the less they have it the less chances they can make. Usually. If a journalist could be allowed to patronize Mourinho this way, and phrase it the same. As Jonathan Wilson said last season, the pragmatic thing to do wouldn't be try not to concede then score if possible, it's instead go for it. When you're up against this Man City (over a season not a single game) you have to.

 

Negative goal difference. It's embarrassing. That's a stat for a team struggling near the bottom of the table. Man City on 31 ! 

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4 minutes ago, Gabzy said:

Would love to see a statistic of how many crosses into the box lead to an actual chance. I'm estimating 0.01%

"First of all he analysed 35,000 crosses from open play in the Premier League, from 2013 to 2015. Crosses from open play led to assists for 414 goals – a dismal 1.2% success rate.

Yet when Gelade tracked what happened in the next six seconds, that jumped, with a further 5,094 attempts on goal leading to 252 goals. There were also another 4,727 corners and 18 penalties, leading to another 80 goals. That brought the conversion rate from crosses from open play up to 2.2% – or one goal for every 45 crosses. Not enormously more productive, granted. But still much better – and a similar success rate to set pieces near the box.

Gelade was able to dive deeper, though, by working with a performance analyst from a leading Premier League club. Together they worked out the numbers could be nudged further in the crosser’s favour – depending on where the cross was made, where it was aimed, the angle of delivery, and whether it was closer to the near or the far post. So a cross from inside the box had a success rate of 7.6% if aimed towards the back post – double that of a cross hit to the near post.Of course context is vital here. The quality of the cross and the player on the end of it matters too – something the data was not able to take into account." https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/feb/12/football-crossing-premier-league

 

so, not far off lol

 

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2 minutes ago, 5R7 said:

 

"First of all he analysed 35,000 crosses from open play in the Premier League, from 2013 to 2015. Crosses from open play led to assists for 414 goals – a dismal 1.2% success rate.

Yet when Gelade tracked what happened in the next six seconds, that jumped, with a further 5,094 attempts on goal leading to 252 goals. There were also another 4,727 corners and 18 penalties, leading to another 80 goals. That brought the conversion rate from crosses from open play up to 2.2% – or one goal for every 45 crosses. Not enormously more productive, granted. But still much better – and a similar success rate to set pieces near the box.

Gelade was able to dive deeper, though, by working with a performance analyst from a leading Premier League club. Together they worked out the numbers could be nudged further in the crosser’s favour – depending on where the cross was made, where it was aimed, the angle of delivery, and whether it was closer to the near or the far post. So a cross from inside the box had a success rate of 7.6% if aimed towards the back post – double that of a cross hit to the near post.Of course context is vital here. The quality of the cross and the player on the end of it matters too – something the data was not able to take into account." https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/feb/12/football-crossing-premier-league

 

so, not far off lol

 

And for Man Utd specifically... gotta be less than 1%  and that's with Fellaini's help.

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well, cant argue with lindelofs desire to keep going at  least.

 

but that was crap.

 

we NEED a right winger! we needed one before sanchez came in! and where the fuck is dalot at to play at RB? is he injured?

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