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Wow complaining about one of RB2's best features. If you ripped the RB1 disc as well you'd really be finding too many tracks you recognised in the game.

If you want just the new stuff I'd recommend going through the challenges rather than the tour. If you go through one of the instrument challenges you'll go through just new stuff and unlock any tracks you see in a setlist (don't have to play just see).

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I've got a feeling it'll be the new ones, it'd be silly to release the old ones again. Surely?

You sorta kinda had to jinx it! :(

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/new-pric...d-rock-band-kit

Following Friday's announcement of new pricing for Rock Band instruments in Europe, EA has confirmed to Eurogamer that the prices apply to the original Rock Band 1 instruments only.

"We're introducing new, low price points for the original Rock Band hardware to make starting a band more affordable than ever," said the publisher in a statement.

There are plans to release the improved Rock Band 2 instruments in Europe, but they're not confirmed yet, and neither is the price. "We're also working on getting Rock Band 2 hardware to Europe and we hope to have more news soon," to quote the release.

The new, lower pricing for Rock Band instruments will come into effect alongside the March and April release dates for the PS2, PS3 and Wii versions of Rock Band 2.

Standalone drums will cost GBP 49.99, guitars GBP 39.99 and a full "instrument edition" set will set you back GBP 89.99. There will be official bundles of the hardware with Rock Band 2, too - these come in at GBP 119.99 for PS3 and Xbox 360 and GBP 109.99 for PS2 and Wii.

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Can I just say something that has been said many times before - "Yaw ya noob". :(

I was waiting for that =)

Wow complaining about one of RB2's best features.

Who was doing that? Certainly not me; I was moaning about them making me re-buy the same songs that I already owned from RB1 DLC, but it seems that wasn't the case.

They can get to fuck for me ripping the RB1 songs onto this though, or did I dream that they were trying to charge for that capability?

I'll just change the disc, thanks.

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They can get to fuck for me ripping the RB1 songs onto this though, or did I dream that they were trying to charge for that capability?

I'll just change the disc, thanks.

Small charge (400 MS points), but well worth it to have all your Rock Band content in one place, playable by the same band in the same setlist etc.

The charge covers licensing fees, demanded by the record companies.

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Ripping is well worth it. All the songs (that are rippable - four aren't) get integrated properly into the tour, the challenges use the songs where applicable, and the Battle of the Bands uses them very often. Plus, the RB2 software is better than the first game, and you can create custom setlists in quick play mode of any length which I do like very much.

Well worth the £3.40, I say. Plus switching discs isn't always a minor inconvenience - one of the things that really fucked me off playing Singstar and Guitar Hero on the PS with a group of friends was the disc changing. Having to effectively set a bunch of songs aside and say "yeah, we're not playing them right now" just cuts into the variety. This eliminates it.

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I wouldn't if I was you. I bought 1 which didn't work straight out of the box. 6 weeks after completing the online form for a replacement from red octane I'm still waiting and shopto don't want to know. :)

Odd.

I got mines with the game for 50 in an argos sale. It was squeaking like mad when I strummed. Got a replacement the next day.

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Don't tell me you wouldn't be annoyed if you'd just needlessly bought the same thing twice!

I think that was a blonde/senior/spaz (choose most appropriate) moment on your part. When you see your DLC songs working in Rock Band 2, the first logical thought would be: "Cool, my DLC works in Rock Band 2!" Not: "Bastards, they've repeated DLC songs on the Rock Band 2 disc!" Bit of spaz logic, that.

The songs have a little symbol next to them to show what game they belong to: "1" means a Rock Band 1 song that you've ripped, "2" means a song on the Rock Band 2 disc, and an arrow symbol means a DLC song.

They can get to fuck for me ripping the RB1 songs onto this though, or did I dream that they were trying to charge for that capability?

I'll just change the disc, thanks.

It's very convenient, for the price of a pint and a packet of crisps. Integrating all Rock Band content into one game is the smartest decision Harmonix have ever made. It's just so handy. I can't imagine playing Rock Band 1 any more, where you can only play one song from the list at a time.

However, I might suggest that you wait until you've enjoyed the career mode filled with RB2 songs, before you integrate the RB1 songs, otherwise you'll get sick of the old RB1 songs taking up too much of the career's random gigs.

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It's very convenient, for the price of a pint and a packet of crisps. Integrating all Rock Band content into one game is the smartest decision Harmonix have ever made. It's just so handy. I can't imagine playing Rock Band 1 any more, where you can only play one song from the list at a time.

This.

For me this is the bit that really has cemented my allegiance to Rock Band - I just love the way that every song (bar four) is just adding to the experience and the content. I'm a huge Metallica fan and it really pains me that GH: Metallica will be a standalone product - I want it all in one place (obv. I know RB and GH are separate franchises but you get my point).

Hopefully, they will release Master of Puppets for RB as rumoured... :)

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However, I might suggest that you wait until you've enjoyed the career mode filled with RB2 songs, before you integrate the RB1 songs, otherwise you'll get sick of the old RB1 songs taking up too much of the career's random gigs.

Where is the career mode? I haven't exactly spent loads of time in the menus but the closest thing I found was the band tours.

So that's all I've been doing so far... I'm only about 20% of the way through the game (I hope, with the quality of the songs so far), but I've played a few of the songs 3 or 4 times now, and most of them at least twice, which is just silly. Especially when I haven't even liked most of them so far, don't make me play them again!

It's not like you can quit either, with the fans business. What a strange design decision.

I think that was a blonde/senior/spaz (choose most appropriate) moment on your part. When you see your DLC songs working in Rock Band 2, the first logical thought would be: "Cool, my DLC works in Rock Band 2!" Not: "Bastards, they've repeated DLC songs on the Rock Band 2 disc!" Bit of spaz logic, that.

The songs have a little symbol next to them to show what game they belong to: "1" means a Rock Band 1 song that you've ripped, "2" means a song on the Rock Band 2 disc, and an arrow symbol means a DLC song.

Nah, there's no "1" or "2" icons in the band tour, you just get songs what you're given by the setlist. I don't believe it's illogical to expect everything within a career of a game is actually from the game itself...

Can you think of another game that uses DLC from the past as something so tightly integrated into the main progression path of a sequel?

I think this is the exception to the rule, so hardly "spazzy" to believe otherwise immediately.

It's very convenient, for the price of a pint and a packet of crisps. Integrating all Rock Band content into one game is the smartest decision Harmonix have ever made. It's just so handy. I can't imagine playing Rock Band 1 any more, where you can only play one song from the list at a time.

It's a nice feature, no doubt* - for the people that don't own Rock Band 1. Blockbusters must be making a fortune.

For the people that own the original it seems completely pointless to me, I don't know why they couldn't have found some other way around stopping the disc-sharing issue.

*I wouldn't go as far to say it's the best decision they've ever made though, isn't it an obvious feature if they had the capability to do it?

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It's a nice feature, no doubt* - for the people that don't own Rock Band 1. Blockbusters must be making a fortune.

For the people that own the original it seems completely pointless to me, I don't know why they couldn't have found some other way around stopping the disc-sharing issue.

It's hardly pointless. It'd be a pain to have to switch back to the RB1 disc every time I wanted to play a song from that game, by importing all the songs I don't have to. It also meant I could sell my RB1 disc since it was effectively redundant after I had exported the songs.

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I don't know why they couldn't have found some other way around stopping the disc-sharing issue.

Some other way? Either there's disc swapping, or there's exporting. Disc swapping is a bigger pain because it completely separates the content - I can't, for example, play a setlist containing of all my The Who songs because one of them's on RB1, one's on RB2.

Exporting requires relicensing because the content is then used in Rock Band 2, for which the original music wasn't licensed (which is a shame). As far as I'm aware, all DLC and RB2 songs are licensed for the platform rather than individual titles.

It's a small price to pay. Of course, if it doesn't bother you to change the discs right now and you don't mind the content separation, there's no draw for you.

... Yet!

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Exporting requires relicensing because the content is then used in Rock Band 2, for which the original music wasn't licensed (which is a shame).

I was talking about stopping disc "sharing" between friends, not "swapping" the disc in the drive from RB1 to RB2. As in, they obviously wouldn't want you to be able to borrow a mate's disc to rip all the songs yourself for free.

I wasn't aware of the licensing issue. If that is the case, then I guess it's just about understandable, if it's the only way they could offer the ripping capability.

I didn't consider the returns on trading in the original disc though, as MiD suggested, which should actually make it viable for me.

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As in, they obviously wouldn't want you to be able to borrow a mate's disc to rip all the songs yourself for free.

I don't think you need to worry about what Harmonix/MTV/EA think of that. They will have taken this into account in their economic model. They can't expect to make much money from the Rock Band 1 retail disc any more -- it is an almost-2-year-old product, superseded by next instalment. The only money they want for these songs now is the 400 MS points it costs to rip them, to cover their costs of re-licensing the songs.

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