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Joyrex-J9

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I wanted to go back to and play an old game that I started, put down and never finished; so I picked Metroid: Prime.

Blimey it's still bloody good. I'm surprised how well the graphics have held up; it looks loverly on my LCD played through the Wii (and not a jaggy mess like a lot of PS2 stuff) I'm having a great time playing this again, it just feels solid and well designed.

I think it's pretty rare to go back to an old game and find it was better than you remember...

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I played echoes through the Wii via component and was really impressed with how great it still looks. I hope to highest hopes that they add a widescreen mode in echoes.... E3 demos were 4:3 only. That'd be a shame, as it could be a real showpiece for the Wii.

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.::: Legendary words if I do say so myself: "Get rid of the colon!" (Never mind the typo.)

Just like Super Mario 64 and HALO, Prime has a certain aura that seems to at one hand defining for the system without ever feeling wrong. In contrast Echoes feels less definitive.

[edit] Prime is better, Echoes is tougher, complexer and more of a challenge. Prime has the better balance and world though.

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Joyrex-J9

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I've never played a metroid prime game :)

Whats the deal with prime and echos?, which is better?

I think the general consensus was Prime was better - from what I hear Echoes had some iffy save point placement and too much backtracking. But I've never played Echoes so what the f**k do I know.

Prime is loverly though.

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I actually preferred Echoes, although I love both games dearly. Some of the bosses DID become a major stumbling point for me though, but that's what Walkthroughs are for.

Some of the light/dark world puzzling was really neat in Echoes, too, and the Light Suit (once you get it) looks simply fantastic.

I think I'm gonna tackle Prime again once I finish my current runthrough of Shadow of the Colossus.

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I've started Echoes twice and failed to finish it (what is it with fish bosses in games being so incredibly frustrating?)

Prime was awesome though.

I got stuck on a boss half way through Prime and haven't been back yet. I still mean to at some point. I guess that means Echoes is not for me.

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Adored the first one, didn't really get on with the second. It's really... purple. And very hard.

Echoes is top of my list of last-gen games to go back and have another crack at, though. If I give it the time and attention it needs, I'm sure it will be excellent.

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I've started Echoes twice and failed to finish it (what is it with fish bosses in games being so incredibly frustrating?)

Prime was awesome though.

Hang on, wasn't Echoes a fair bit less difficult than the first one? Mainly due to the easier bosses. That was my experience anyway.

I actually didn't complete Prime because of the rock hard very last boss. Bloody hate myself for it aswell.

Both games were absolutely superb from start to finish though. And stunningly atmospheric.

Prime the better of the two, but Echoes does have shit loads more excellent morph balling.

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Prime was great until the Omega Pirate, where the difficulty went up from a challenge to nigh on impossible, it took me over a year to finally beat it. my save game is still sitting on the final boss who i can't defeat, if i ever do finish it it will be the longest time i've taken to complete a game. 4 years this month so far.

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Hang on, wasn't Echoes a fair bit less difficult than the first one? Mainly due to the easier bosses. That was my experience anyway.

I actually didn't complete Prime because of the rock hard very last boss. Bloody hate myself for it aswell.

Both games were absolutely superb from start to finish though. And stunningly atmospheric.

Prime the better of the two, but Echoes does have shit loads more excellent morph balling.

I hadn't had any problem with Echoes second time through until this fish thing, I just couldn't figure out what to do and the way you got it it was quite contrived, the levels looked very samey so I just lost motivation.

Prime's last boss was actually very easy once you knew what to do. The preceding one was *much* harder IMO, without being as fun as Omega Pirate.

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I hadn't had any problem with Echoes second time through until this fish thing, I just couldn't figure out what to do and the way you got it it was quite contrived, the levels looked very samey so I just lost motivation.

Prime's last boss was actually very easy once you knew what to do. The preceding one was *much* harder IMO, without being as fun as Omega Pirate.

Do you mean Meta Ridley, the flying bat thing, i didn't have much bother with it. i've never heard the Omega Pirate described as fun...

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Do you mean Meta Ridley, the flying bat thing, i didn't have much bother with it. i've never heard the Omega Pirate described as fun...

Yeah, Meta Ridley, did my head in. The final boss was piss easy to avoid if you just stayed a morph ball & timed your attacks right.

Omega Pirate was fun cos I beat it :huh: with an absolutely blinding* shot just as I was about to be torn to shreds by the cloaked pirates around me. Very satisfying indeed.

*lucky

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I loved and completed them both, but i did find find the design of some of the enemies and the weapons to be a bit too samey

plasma = light weapon

ice = dark weapon

electricity = annihilator

those creatures you encounter in the phenandra drifts are the same as you encounter in the swamps. ingsmasher = big slow space pirates etc etc

i did prefer echoes though, i think the bosses were awesome, the big spinny robot, the creature in the swamp that goes from slug to bug, all excellent

i shall be sending the mrs away for three weeks when i get a wii in conjunction for the next metroid release

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Find them both slightly overrated. Prime was at least really good and the pacing was decent, Echoes just didn't grab me at all - got to Quadraxis (?) and then realised I had to go on another collect-em-up and never went back -The dual world stuff became laborious, too.

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Metroid Prime was fantastic, kept me hooked for a long time. One of the most absorbing games I've played for sure. The graphics and sound are still great (the title theme is one of the best I've heard).

The sequel, I've tried to play through a couple of times and I've just given up a few hours in. It never really grabbed me, and the whole 'dark world' thing seemed to over-complicate things and reduce the exploration, and there wasn't enough save points. I'd still love to go back to it.

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Prime is lovely but punishes you right at the last and leaves a slightly bitter aftertaste. Its a lesson on how poorly placed save points can take a solid 9 into the grounds of an average 8.

Although my counter-criticism can only be as subjective as your criticism, there's only one questionably placed save point in Metroid Prime 1. (In the Phazon Mines.) Even if there were half a dozen more (which I imagine could be the case if I'd played through without looking for any energy tanks, or something), it would still be a solid ten.

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Echoes has a 'second game out of 3' thing going on... the beginning is pretty dull and not a patch on the amazing first 'level' of prime. There's some great bits in Echoes and the design of some of the areas is fantastic - but it doesn't have the feeling of grandeur that Prime has. It feels more like a side story than anything else.

Prime is a solid 10 though - one of the best games I've played. Echoes, with the spider ball boss, has worst placed save point of any metroid game I've played. Took me MONTHS to get past that bas$£!d!

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Indeed. How anyone could call it 'overrated' is beyond me. I barely know anyone who bought it.

Critically overrated, I meant. I think it's Metacritics highest rated GC game. I really enjoyed it, but wouldn't go so far as to say its as good as that. Mind you, I do remember the fuss when Edge didn't award it a ten - so I'm in the minority.

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