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You must have been fairly confident against the guy when you made that call with ace-high there, was he massively over-aggro or something?

He's so bad I was pretty sure I was letting him blow off his stack with 2 overs or a stupid draw. He'd stacked off to me when I had AA on a 238 board with A3o. I instacalled with AKo on the turn.

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Seat 6: Danegerous69 ( $26.37 USD )

Seat 7: FlushBrother ( $66.28 USD )

Seat 3: Furrioza ( $39.88 USD )

Seat 10: MagciH ( $5 USD )

Seat 9: cdobrin ( $42.55 USD )

Seat 2: Chaz ( $18.55 USD )

Seat 1: hokusan ( $39.90 USD )

Seat 8: ifloatyou ( $25 USD )

Seat 5: mbambir ( $13.81 USD )

cdobrin posts small blind [$0.10 USD].

MagciH posts big blind [$0.25 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to Chaz [ Jh Js ]

DJ_rido: omg

hokusan folds

Chaz raises [$0.50 USD]

Furrioza folds

mbambir calls [$0.50 USD]

Danegerous69 calls [$0.50 USD]

FlushBrother folds

ifloatyou folds

cdobrin raises [$2.15 USD]

MagciH folds

Chaz calls [$1.75 USD]

mbambir calls [$1.75 USD]

Danegerous69 folds

** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, 5c, 3d ]

cdobrin bets [$5.34 USD]

Chaz calls [$5.34 USD]

hokusan: keep cool Charlie

mbambir is all-In [$11.56 USD]

cdobrin folds

Chaz calls [$6.22 USD]

** Dealing Turn ** [ 4d ]

** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]

Chaz shows [ Jh, Js ]two pairs, Jacks and Fives.

mbambir shows [ 6d, Ad ]a flush, Ace high.

mbambir wins $34.17 USD from the main pot with a flush, Ace high.

WTF? Same stupid fish has been hitting miracle draws with shocking hands all night. Obviously I could have raised more preflop but I knew someone else would do it for me with only an average hand, and I was right. Don't see anything wrong with my post-flop play there, at worst I thought i'd be racing QQ-AA (unlikely since i'd seen him playing shite hands and raising big with nothing right to the river then hitting). I'm getting sick of the fishy play on PartyPoker right now, hasn't seemed to be working in my favour recently.

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Wow now I know why I stopped playing this low stakes poker online months ago. Was sitting in a 10p/20p table with around £15 chips having put a fiver in and worked it up playing some small games over the last week.

Dealt AA, someone goes all in. Obviously I call all in too. He shows JJ. Flop comes xxA. Then J on the turn and J on the river. Absolutely furious.

I hate this game, I seriously have no luck anymore at all, losing so many hands like that really gets tedious. I used to enjoy playing this too.

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I know I should be grateful for morons who play like this, and I know I'm a slight dog against 2 players with any 4 cards, but how the hell are you supposed to make a profit playing against these people. Jesus.

electricsoul: posts small blind $0.05

Chooch1010: posts big blind $0.10

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to johan glans [Ad As 6d Jc]

kooras: calls $0.10

Raschid 29: calls $0.10

UUUm: calls $0.10

johan glans: raises $0.55 to $0.65

electricsoul: folds

Chooch1010: raises $0.85 to $1.50

kooras: folds

Raschid 29: calls $1.40

UUUm: folds

johan glans: raises $4.75 to $6.25

Chooch1010: calls $4.75

Raschid 29: raises $1.75 to $8 and is all-in

johan glans: calls $1.75

Chooch1010: calls $1.75

*** FLOP *** [4s Jh 4h]

Chooch1010: bets $1.75 and is all-in

johan glans: calls $1.75

*** TURN *** [4s Jh 4h] [7s]

*** RIVER *** [4s Jh 4h 7s] [8h]

*** SHOW DOWN ***

Chooch1010: shows [Jd 8s Ks Ts] (two pair, Jacks and Eights)

johan glans: shows [Ad As 6d Jc] (two pair, Aces and Fours)

johan glans collected $3.40 from side pot

Raschid 29: shows [Kh Qh 4d 3h] (a flush, King high)

Raschid 29 collected $23.05 from main pot

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Christ, fucking omaha can be brutal. I've dropped about ten buyins tonight. top set is no good against any pissy little draw, and every time i get it in with a big draw the board seems to pair on the turn. I think I've tilted off a fair bit, but jesus tonight has been foul.

Here's a nice example, this guy was ONLY raising with aces, and I knew he'd stack with them.

Dealt to johan glans [7c Ts 7d 8d]

Hang4554: calls $0.10

johan glans: calls $0.10

A31955: calls $0.10

Geißlinger: calls $0.10

goed leven: folds

H03F: raises $0.40 to $0.50

Hang4554: folds

johan glans: calls $0.40

A31955: calls $0.40

Geißlinger: folds

*** FLOP *** [8h 8s Ks]

H03F: checks

johan glans: bets $1.70

A31955: folds

H03F: raises $5.10 to $6.80

johan glans: raises $5.10 to $11.90

H03F: calls $1.50 and is all-in

Uncalled bet ($3.60) returned to johan glans

*** TURN *** [8h 8s Ks] [As]

*** RIVER *** [8h 8s Ks As] [4d]

*** SHOW DOWN ***

H03F: shows [3h Ac 9h Ah] (a full house, Aces full of Eights)

johan glans: mucks hand

H03F collected $17.45 from pot

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I actually installed that pokerev tool last night to make sure that I'm not just donking off my stack in completely the wrong place, which is what it feels like at the moment, and it turns out that in the last thousand hands or so I'm running about 10 buy ins below expectation when all the money's in, which feels about right, if infuriating. It's a very handy, and quite reassuring, little tool (free too!). But it only works with pokertracker 2 databases apparently. There's a really nice post in the 2+2 omaha high forum discussing the various graphs etc.

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i was like in shock for a bit thinking of that poor guy and what do u do lmao, but also thinking he must get a 'Bad Beat Bonus' or summit and the guy who got Royal Flush would get a bonus also? like getting a 147 in snooker etc... hehe

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There are people in the thread on that video saying that the guy with quads could have laid it down, and I think that there probably are players that could lay it down. It's an absolutely fucking sick spot though, especially with stacks as deep as those 2 had.

I read about a hand that took place at the final table of a fairly major tourney the other week, two guys got it all in preflop. One had asks, the other had ahkh. The guy with the spades flopped the nut flush and went on to make a 7 card royal flush. The other guys cards didn't even play. Madness!

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There are people in the thread on that video saying that the guy with quads could have laid it down, and I think that there probably are players that could lay it down. It's an absolutely fucking sick spot though, especially with stacks as deep as those 2 had.

I read about a hand that took place at the final table of a fairly major tourney the other week, two guys got it all in preflop. One had asks, the other had ahkh. The guy with the spades flopped the nut flush and went on to make a 7 card royal flush. The other guys cards didn't even play. Madness!

There is no way any player in the world is laying down quads there, or anywhere where it takes both hole cards to make a straight flush. Ever. Not unless the other guy flips his cards over. Anyone that says otherwise is talking such bullshit it's retarded.

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That was just nasty. Absolutely obscene in fact. As Poet says there's no way you'd ever lay down or fail to go/call all in with quads on that board, especially quad aces. The chance of a superior hand is so low it's almost not even worth thinking about.

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I've had a straight flush versus Quads versus Full House before. Was only 50NL though so no one was losing a $10k buy in!

And to think you walked out of Casino Royale because the poker was unrealistic. Tsk.

Holy shit though, Poet. I've only just caught up with the last few weeks' worth of posts in this thread. I've been considering leaving work when Kate goes back after maternity leave and trying to earn us some extra cash at the tables, but the run you've been enjoying recently has made me a little less enthusiastic.

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Holy shit though, Poet. I've only just caught up with the last few weeks' worth of posts in this thread. I've been considering leaving work when Kate goes back after maternity leave and trying to earn us some extra cash at the tables, but the run you've been enjoying recently has made me a little less enthusiastic.

Those beats were only the very smallest handful. Nothing like a bigger than 20 buyin downswing putting in your money way ahead again and again and again and again and again to really make you love the game.

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dave ulliott apparently once laid down quads when he read that his opponent had a straight flush, at the vic i think. It can be done!

With the other guy using both hole cards? Sorry, but I am not convinced! The number of times you're ahead versus, well, anything else other than those two specific cards.... anything other than calling an all in or raising big is a losing play.

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You'd definitely, definitely, lose money folding that hand. In that situation, what percent of the time do you think he has a royal flush? I'm sure it's always less than the percent chance you give to him bluffing plus the chance of him holding a good but worse hand.

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With the other guy using both hole cards? Sorry, but I am not convinced! The number of times you're ahead versus, well, anything else other than those two specific cards.... anything other than calling an all in or raising big is a losing play.

It was omaha, so all the hole cards had to be used. I guess since it's omaha then it might be slightly more fold-able.

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There is no way any player in the world is laying down quads there, or anywhere where it takes both hole cards to make a straight flush. Ever. Not unless the other guy flips his cards over. Anyone that says otherwise is talking such bullshit it's retarded.

Absolutely. Anyone who says they could lay down that hand on that board in any tournament is talking through their hole.

On a side note, I fucking hate people who shove their chips in like the guy with quads did in that video - sending them flying across the table. It's fine if you're the opponent, as it gives you a chance to give them a sweat, I guess, but if you're just at the table, everything has to stop while the dealer gathers the chips back up and gets a count. Grrr!

Although, in the circumstances, I guess it can be forgiven.

But if someone opened a casino where any breach of etiquette netted you an instant lifetime ban, with no second chances, I'd be all over it. Slowrolling should be punishable by death.

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and then HE criticised me for not betting my top 2. Amazing. (omaha btw)

:) I love those guys. I had a situation deep in a live tourney once where a guy with 10BBs limped on the button (the action having folded around to him), the SB folded, and I checked my BB (this is key) with some 74os-esque hand (this guy was never folding after he limped in this spot). Long story short, I flopped two pair and knocked him out (he had limped on the button with A8 :lol:). As he was getting his coat off the back of his chair, he muttered under his breath, "yeah, keep playing fucking cards like those, see how fucking far you get, you prick" Only me and my SB had heard him, and we nearly fell off our chairs laughing, our guffawing following him as he made for the exit.

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It's utter madness. I mean who checks the nuts on the button on the river? How do you do that?

I've had a few situations like that, where people have berated me after their awful play. there was a hand I played yesterday as well, I raised some limpers late posn with aaxx and got a few callers. The flop came something like t,t,q. One guy led out with a tiny bet, and I just called for the hell of it. the next card was my ace, he leads out, I raise, and we get it all in with him having qq. He then types all kinds of shit into the chatbox, despite the fact that his ridiculous bet had basically given me odds to hit my set, and we got it all in once his hand was 2nd best anyway. I love these low stakes morons.

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Absolutely. Anyone who says they could lay down that hand on that board in any tournament is talking through their hole.

On a side note, I fucking hate people who shove their chips in like the guy with quads did in that video - sending them flying across the table. It's fine if you're the opponent, as it gives you a chance to give them a sweat, I guess, but if you're just at the table, everything has to stop while the dealer gathers the chips back up and gets a count. Grrr!

Although, in the circumstances, I guess it can be forgiven.

But if someone opened a casino where any breach of etiquette netted you an instant lifetime ban, with no second chances, I'd be all over it. Slowrolling should be punishable by death.

I love all of this. You're so right.

Oh, and I get berated by players losing their stacks to me playing insanely badly all the time. I'm a total fish, etc. I tell them I did indeed get lucky most of the time. I just don't add "lucky... to be playing against people like you".

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