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Other exotics added to the list - (*grief emote* My)Peregrine Greaves, No land Beyond (You can solo Crota with this!! Honest.), Apotheosis Veil (god knows how they'll buff this), Radiant Dance Machines (are you having a giraffe?!?), Aclyophade Symbiote (which I'm sure every gunslinger ever will be wearing), Twilight (I should have been released back at TTK launch!) Garrison, Hard (more like soft) Light and Bones of Eh? Oh....

Other than the first 2 (and possibly the Garrison which may turn out to be the dogs bollox for Titans in PvP) I'm not that fussed on any of those.

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Radiant Dance Machines (are you having a giraffe?!?)

Yes - a big one, with a neck stuffed full of fun. RDMs coupled with a MIDA is a marriage made in heaven for Hunters; they're the perfect symbiosis of exotic weapon and exotic armour. Really pleased they're back - although the removal of knockback from the MIDA might lessen my enthusiasm when I find that people can still shoot me while I'm shooting them. You do tend to be a bit, er, fragile when Hunter-rocking a speed/precision build. But man, can you dance.

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Yes - a big one, with a neck stuffed full of fun. RDMs coupled with a MIDA is a marriage made in heaven for Hunters; they're the perfect symbiosis of exotic weapon and exotic armour. Really pleased they're back - although the removal of knockback from the MIDA might lessen my enthusiasm when I find that people can still shoot me while I'm shooting them. You do tend to be a bit, er, fragile when Hunter-rocking a speed/precision build. But man, can you dance.

For some reason I thought they only worked with heavy weapons.

They may be updated already, because they certainly are not limited to heavy only according to this - https://www.bungie.net/en/Armory/Detail?type=item&item=1775312682&itemname=Radiant%20Dance%20Machines

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No, they've never been limited to heavy weapons.

Mind, I probably won't find I love the setup like I used to - MIDA and RDMs will always be inextricably linked in my memory with Bladedancers and blink/speed builds. And they're kind of rubbish now. Without the BD's former evasiveness and instant readiness to pull the trigger I doubt I'll be as wowed with the whole dancey-shooty approach as I once was. I'll be giving it a go for sure, though.

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Yes - a big one, with a neck stuffed full of fun. RDMs coupled with a MIDA is a marriage made in heaven for Hunters; they're the perfect symbiosis of exotic weapon and exotic armour. Really pleased they're back - although the removal of knockback from the MIDA might lessen my enthusiasm when I find that people can still shoot me while I'm shooting them. You do tend to be a bit, er, fragile when Hunter-rocking a speed/precision build. But man, can you dance.

Is the removal of knock back your guess or has it been discussed?

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A grand total of two new exotics? When last December we got the Crota DLC? Hmmm, I sense a distinct lack of content. Still, Bones of Eao is supposed to be ace for Hunters, and we get the post buff Hard Light.

When I tried it whilst levelling an ult, the thing was amazing. It wasn't the peashooter of old. Plus I have had people unleashing a hail of rebounding bullets in corridors in crucible. Not a nice thing to try and get past.

Still only two new things though. No mention of any extra missions or anything like that. A couple of new exotics isn't going to bring people back suddenly. Are there still more be exotics in the database they haven't released yet? Actual question as I cannot remember.

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Hey chaps I know it's not as good as the cunting pulse rifle, but I really like that IB hand cannon. you should give it a go. ADS is super quick and has a nice fatebringer like feel to it. i was pleasantly surprised when it dropped. then i also bought it. so now i have two.

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A grand total of two new exotics? When last December we got the Crota DLC? Hmmm, I sense a distinct lack of content. Still, Bones of Eao is supposed to be ace for Hunters, and we get the post buff Hard Light.

When I tried it whilst levelling an ult, the thing was amazing. It wasn't the peashooter of old. Plus I have had people unleashing a hail of rebounding bullets in corridors in crucible. Not a nice thing to try and get past.

Still only two new things though. No mention of any extra missions or anything like that. A couple of new exotics isn't going to bring people back suddenly. Are there still more be exotics in the database they haven't released yet? Actual question as I cannot remember.

Yes there are other exotics. Obviously they're keeping them back until next year, which is total bullshit considering some of them were used in the trailer for the Taken King back before release even.

Its all about trying to keep people playing at this point, but a few meagre offerings like a handful of exotics wont do that. People will just log in, buy what they want, and level them for a short while, then log back off. Hardly going to keep people playing for prolonged periods.

Edit: I got to rank 5 in Iron Banner, and got the shotgun in the package with the ghost. Both were 310 though, whereas Lewden got a 316 shotgun I think. I've heard you can get the helms, primaries and other stuff in them too. I saw a Titan last night wearing the helm for instance, so it definitely is there. This is only out of the rank 5 package though.

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I handed in my bounties to make all three characters IB rank 5 this morning. One got the sniper, Weyloran's March, at 311. It's basically Praedyth's, but not a great roll (Unflinching and Army of One). Another got the the scout rifle, Colovance's Duty, at 315. It has Guerrilla Fighter and Last Resort, and seems... ok, though again not a good roll. Plus, MIDA's coming, so I suspect these two are going to be infusion fodder. My third character got the class item at 318, which is nice. All three also got the ghost shell at 310, so I guess that's probably a fixed reward.

It doesn't seem a bad set of rewards - certainly compared to last IB, and arguably compared to HM King's Fall. I ended up buying both the machine gun and the hand cannon, as although I had a hand cannon drop, it was a terrible roll, even worse than the vendor's. They're just for the collection though, and it's really time I trimmed down the collection as my vault doth overflow with 170s from last year anyway...

I also did a couple of Trials tickets and played the worst games I ever have in my life (I am shit in sniper-favouring maps), and got a blue engram from the silver tier package and an artefact at about 300 from the gold. So I guess it all balances out in the end.

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You have three rank 5s. I have one rank 3.

Well jell

I takes no time at all to get an alt up to 5 over the weekend with the way the buffs multiply and the alt buff stacks on that. But the only point in doing so is the armour really, for if you're a collector of tat.

I haven't enjoyed IB anywhere near as much as usual the time, which makes not very much at all. I don't like it being Team Slayer Clash, and fervently hope it's back to being Control next time, which is just more interesting to play, with bits of light and shade and ups and downs and dynamics and stuff, not just one-note. But even if it is Clash again I'll have to play it, just for the helmet. Have you seen the Hunter helmet? It's a thing of beauty. And it will be mine to complete the set.

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I'm not shallow, honest.

(And yeah, I mislaid the Warlock's legs somewhere. Probably the same place I left his Osiris arms.)

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Ben - the exotics released now are still part of TTK so I don't understand you complaining they were shown in a trailer for TTK? Also, you seem annoyed they are being released over time rather than all available at the start but in your next paragraph you say it's about getting people to continue playing - would having all the content/items available on day 1 help or hinder that?

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