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Soo Denim

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Does anyone have any pointers for crucible and General PVP? I used to be ok at Control and was normally top three and made about 4-5k points a game. My main weapon was The Last Word and a HMG. But since TTK I literally can't kill anything even getting a positive KDR is almost impossible.

I've tried hand cannons, pulse rifles, scout rifles and auto rifles but can't seem to kill anything. What's driving me insane is shotguns, I was always rubbish with them but over the last two days I've had over 10 crucible games and not one shotgun kill! I know I've always had an issue with them but it's reaching a ridiculous level.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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mikeyl

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The default set up that everyone is killing me and I'm having the most success with is pulse rifle (Red Death because of the no flinch and regen), shotgun and a sunbreaker Titan. If you're using a shotgun I just keep running about. No time to line up your shots really.

Oryx was painful tonight. Ah well, get to keep my mouldering shards for the reset

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Dunno I'm fairly hopeless at crucible although I have got significantly better since switching from PS3 to PS4, can only think it's the pad.

Anyway a stable auto rifle works best for me, I normally rock Monte Carlo and a shotgun for close range.

Actually what tends to work best for me is to grab the heavy and cause chaos with a sword, Destiny badly needs a sword only mode.

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DoctorEggo

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Does anyone have any pointers for crucible and General PVP?

Avoiding class-specific stuff, as you main a 'lock, and I play hunter...

I'm not amazing at crucible by any stretch of the imagination, and have only recently been doing well at all, so take with a hefty pinch of salt, but usually these days I get above 2.x KDR, and occasionally do significantly better. Except in Trials...let's not talk about Trials.

I usually go in with a decent pulse rifle with low recoil (Nirwen's Mercy, as I don't have Red Death), a shotgun (usually go with Invective due to rapid fire rate, but the ubiquitous quest reward roll of Conspiracy Theory-D is also lovely), and an HMG (Baron's Ambition is the best I have - Destiny doesn't want me to have heavy weapons).

  1. Find the range that works for you. Sadly I'm complete bobbins with a sniper rifle in PVP compared to the younger/better players out there, so I don't even try to compete with them in that arena. In general, I favour keeping people at mid-range, where the pulse rifle can do it's best work. My shotgun is my backup weapon for when I'm caught unawares, I'm in a confined area, or that bastard who was outgunning me smells blood and charges my position after I duck into cover to let my shields restore.
  2. Stick with your team. Seriously, stick with your team. After the first death, it's very easy (especially when you're frustrated) to go charging back in the general direction of the red blobs, but by doing this you will, at best, be going 1:1 with members of the hated Red Team; more likely you'll be running into several of them at once. Don't be a lone wolf unless you have no choice, or you're trying to be sneaky, and be conscious that the latter is much more likely to get you killed.
  3. Keep your distance from your team. Yeah, I know - just a caveat that you really don't want to be group hugging when the rockets and supers fly. Stick with your team, just don't stand on top of them. We've all seen what happens when a whole team try to capture Zone B at the same time. Ouch.
  4. Use cover, and don't be greedy. Pew away at the enemy players and strafe around while doing so in as random a pattern as you can manage, but always (read: where you can) make sure you have cover on at least one of your sides; if it looks like you're going to trade, or you're coming off worse than the other guy, duck into cover and stay there until your shields recover. If you've stuck with your team, chances are one of them will finish him off, you get an assist, and live to fight another day.
  5. Don't be where they expect you to be. Yeah, real Sun Tzu stuff here, but this is a big deal when it comes to shotguns. How often do you round a corner with your shotgun, knowing there's a guy there waiting for you with his shotgun? That's your reflexes versus his (plus or minus connection quality). I win a lot of those encounters by making them come to me, and jumping over the door arch, or simply jumping in the air, as I suspect they're about to round the corner. Of course, I lose a lot because of this too - good shotgunners with blink, at close range, are pretty good at ruining my day. Similarly - if you duck into cover, don't pop back out exactly where you were before: they'll expect it, and probably have a sniper rifle pointed at you.
  6. Change your subclass to fit the map. More of a suggestion, but I personally dislike fighting void warlocks in open maps (where the balls of space magic can fly the furthest), Arc warlocks in confined maps (where the sith lords can round a corner and zap you before you have a chance to take them out), and solar warlocks in Trials (my team and I seem to descend into mindless panic when the self-res goes off "We've won! OHSHITOHSHITOHSHIT"). Of course, as a hunter, I rarely switch from void, because it is The Best.
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Gorf King

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I don't really understand the description - shields are always resistant to unmatched elemental damage, aren't they? I guess with no burn and Small Arms it's all normal pew pew anyway.

Also, it's four weeks since the last IB, so that might kick off tonight. If the featured reward gun is anything near as good as Nirwen's, that'll be something to look forward to.

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Nate Dogg III

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It means literally no damage, I think. You can always chip away at a shield with the wrong element weapon can't you, it only a tiny bit? I dunno. I'll shut up.

Could do without it being banner this week actually because I'm a bit busy, and also fallout. Hopefully Bungie takes my needs and wants into consideration and sits on it for a week.

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Warlock PvP tips:

Spec Fire then sprint at the enemy screaming loudly and firing wildly as a diversion. Then melee them for an overshield and Melee them again to finish them off before they breach your shield.

It's completely unexpected and half the time it works every time.

That's how you go 4-3 in trials. :ph34r:

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Soo Denim

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Warlock PvP tips:

Spec Fire then sprint at the enemy screaming loudly and firing wildly as a diverion. Then melee them for an overshield and Melee them again to finish them off before they breach your shield.

It's completely unexpected and half the time it works every time.

That's how you go 4-3 in trials. :ph34r:

Helpful as ever mate ;-)

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Having done 3 wins with 6+ auto rifle kills last night, the biggest PvP tip I can give is use a decent primary.

Right now that means a pulse rifle with good stability or maybe a full auto scout rifle with good stability. Or Red Death (average as a pulse in terms of stats, but health regen is cool).

For secondary, pick a shot gun with good range (reward Conspiracy-D is hard to beat).

For heavy, pick either a high impact MG (the raid one is a decent choice) or a rocket with grenades and horseshoes (very important).

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The last IB Pulse Rifle is very good. No Time to Explain looks like it could be ok (although it doesn't retain radar like the IB one)

Seen loads using the Zhao recently and I've no idea how or why (although it felt like it was doing a lot of damage)

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Our team finally took down Oryx last night. After a couple of weeks of building up to it and getting our technique down for each section. We knew when we were getting better when instead of getting stuck at the

Warpriest

we were getting to Oryx in one sitting of a couple or so hours. At then we faced Oryx. And many is the hour we spent trying to nail him. And last night it clicked.

Man it felt good. What a moment.

Right up until the twat gave me a fucking 304 cloak when I have a 310, and a 302 auto rifle and mouldy shard.

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We got Oryx for the first time last week after an evening and a half of wiping on him. Last night, first time back, we one shot him (this included a death on the first bomb phase that meant only 3 bombs went off, leading to 5 bomb phases and best of all, mistaking which transition phase it was - we were expecting the grey zone and instead it was another Benny Hill run around - half the fireteam was killed in one explosion).

Sometimes I wonder how we kill anything.

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My personal Crucibleh loadout is:

MIDA Multitool

Matador 64

Harrowed Qulims Terminus

Range and close combat all covered.

Also using Lightning for my Super.

Even managed to get my Last Word quest up to 55% by playing it safe and swopping it out only whem i have a super or heavy ammo.

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We got Oryx for the first time last week after an evening and a half of wiping on him. Last night, first time back, we one shot him (this included a death on the first bomb phase that meant only 3 bombs went off, leading to 5 bomb phases and best of all, mistaking which transition phase it was - we were expecting the grey zone and instead it was another Benny Hill run around - half the fireteam was killed in one explosion).

Sometimes I wonder how we kill anything.

That was a funny moment - all standing there waiting, unaware we were about to be wiped out! Still, being one of those caught out meant a bit of a breather whilst the rest of the team were running in circles.

I still struggle with the jumping section with the pistons as I could barely even get off the first platform last night.

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Hmmm, I don't have fallout but haven't played this at all on my 2 days off - maybe the curse spell has been broken...

Bungie are being utter asshats about the £16 I spent on silver and didn't get so thats not exactly helping but I wonder why when arguably the content has been at its best I feel like there is nothing to lay for, I have no drive to do nightfalls and that was a guaranteed 3 runs a week pre TTK just on the off chance to get me a trumpet.

This may sound a bit odd but I have most year 2 exotics both guns and armour so it doesn't feel like there is a chance to get anything exciting from non raid content and while recent plays on the old raids were fun it was a cakewalk so part of the fun is taken away.

Maybe I will be back next week but if you had told me on TTK launch day that one completion of Kingsfall and I would be playing other games over this and I would have laughed lots and loudly!

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