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Got a couple of options for screenings next week, leaning towards the screen with Dolby Atmos as imagine the sound in the film is crucial, given it won the Best Sound Oscar?

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33 minutes ago, max renn said:

The sound is amazing - go with the dolby for sure.

 

Ta! Booked. Nice to see there’s a pre-recorded Q&A included.

 

Pretty excited. This is one of the glaring omissions, glad to get the opportunity to finally see it on a big (well, medium-sized) screen.

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Wow.

 

I need to take some time to process the film fully, and also go away and consume as much about the film as I can, but safe to say that tonight had one of the greatest cinematic experiences of my life. And good lord that sound. The imagery. The everything.

 

Spellbinding. Apocalypse Now is exactly why I love film so much. I’m slightly embarrassed it’s taken this long to watch it, but maybe that’s just how it was meant to be.

 

Interesting (recorded) Q&A with Ford-Coppola afterwards too.

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Booked a ticket for this playing today in Newcastle, but I can't sodding go now. The horror.... the horror :(

 

Edit fuck that, I'm in!

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3hrs of pure brilliance this afternoon. Worth it for the sound alone. Having never seen redux a few questions -

 

With the French plantation, was that supposed to be Willard tripping out/ off his tits on something? I'm sure I read years ago there was also a theory that it was supposed to be ghosts? I was also expecting the PBR to come across the downed Playboy bunny Huey and Chef to get some mangos. I take it thats just in Redux?

 

Finally in the original did we ever see  Kilgore's surfboard stashed on the PBR? I can't remember seeing it in the background or anything.

 

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On 25/08/2019 at 21:01, idiwa said:

3hrs of pure brilliance this afternoon. Worth it for the sound alone. Having never seen redux a few questions -

 

With the French plantation, was that supposed to be Willard tripping out/ off his tits on something? I'm sure I read years ago there was also a theory that it was supposed to be ghosts? I was also expecting the PBR to come across the downed Playboy bunny Huey and Chef to get some mangos. I take it thats just in Redux?

 

Finally in the original did we ever see  Kilgore's surfboard stashed on the PBR? I can't remember seeing it in the background or anything.

 

The PBR comes across the playboy bunnies in redux. The crew trade fuel for some time with the bunnies, and you get to see their tits.

 

The crew steal Kilgore's favourite surfboard in redux. 

 

Chef looks for mangoes in the original and redux.

 

French plantation scene was real. And despite there also being tits it was boring ...

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On 23/08/2019 at 22:00, John Edward Gammell said:

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Watched the theatrical cut in 4K, last night. 

 

Still perfect as is. 

 

The collectors edition seems to be unavailable in 4k now,  at least on Amazon. It's not actually out yet, is it? Knew I should've preordered.

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The French plantation scenes were the only part of the Final Cut in which I got a bit restless, but I at the time had no idea there were once French colonies in Vietnam.

 

After reading about them, settled on the simplistic notion that the scenes are the most overt criticism of the pointlessness of America’s war. Even with a prolonged period of control, the French were hardly in any great shape, stubbornly living amid death and wreckage and looked like they might fall past the point of no return at any moment.

 

There’s also a dreamlike quality to the scenes, so depending on overall interpretation of the film, the scenes could also be see as Willard’s final flight of fantasy before staring into the abyss when meeting Kurtz / plunging into his own madness. The woman in the boudoir representing his own instability, or introspective search for answers he doesn’t even have the right questions for. For the viewer it’s discombobulating; there’s no darkly comic relief as with Kilgore, there’s just an urgent sense that everything is about to unravel.

 

Read a theory it’s also purgatory, given the funeral. The French are in limbo, almost refusing to accept, or unaware of, their own fate.

 

Love that all of the above can be true or can be horseshit. I am still a little bewildered by the film. Originally pegged it in my top 10, but think it’s top five. It’s incredible.

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It’s hard to be objective as Apocalypse Now is probably my favourite film and anything that messes with the original’s flow seems wrong and unnecessary to me, but I’m still not a huge fan of the plantation scene. It slows the film right down at the point where it should be ramping up towards the climax, it’s very stagey and didactic, and the love scene with Willard has this ludicrously OTT soft porn music (at least in the redux version). The French presence in Vietnam is something that’s almost never mentioned in films about the war, but even accounting for that, the film is better without the plantation scenes. I’d recommend watching Ken Burns’ documentary about Vietnam for a more interesting take on French colonialism in Vietnam, and France’s Vietnam war – it’s on Netflix.

 

Of all the missing scenes from Apocalypse Now, I found it odd that none of the different versions include the monkey sampan bit. It’s short, striking, and very much in keeping with the absolute madness of the second half of the film.

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I've been trying to find a way to see Hearts of Darkness for decades now, it just doesn't seem to exist (the documentary/making of). I thought for sure it would be on the 'complete dossier' set, but it wasn't. Any ideas?

 

That French bit goes on far too long and is the main reason I still prefer the theatrical cut. Knowing it's in the new cut but the second bunnies scene isn't... meh.

 

Incidentally the surfboard was featured in the theatrical cut, when Lance is water-skiing (water-surfing can't be right) behind the boat, we just never saw them taking it.

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4 hours ago, Darwock said:

I've been trying to find a way to see Hearts of Darkness for decades now, it just doesn't seem to exist (the documentary/making of). I thought for sure it would be on the 'complete dossier' set, but it wasn't. Any ideas?

 

Amazon has the Blu-Ray for sale (though it's listed as Region 2 not Region B):

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hearts-Darkness-Blu-ray-Fax-Bahr/dp/B006DFPS6W/

 

Cinema Paradiso has the DVD to rent:

https://www.cinemaparadiso.co.uk/rentals/hearts-of-darkness-a-filmmakers-apocalypse-105451.html

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8 hours ago, Darwock said:

I've been trying to find a way to see Hearts of Darkness for decades now, it just doesn't seem to exist (the documentary/making of). I thought for sure it would be on the 'complete dossier' set, but it wasn't. Any ideas?

 

That French bit goes on far too long and is the main reason I still prefer the theatrical cut. Knowing it's in the new cut but the second bunnies scene isn't... meh.

 

Incidentally the surfboard was featured in the theatrical cut, when Lance is water-skiing (water-surfing can't be right) behind the boat, we just never saw them taking it.

 

Final Cut has the PBR crew taking the board and then stashing it when stopping for mangoes.

 

As a newbie, all these different versions only adds to the film’s aura. It’s kind of cool there are other versions I can watch and ponder, each with their own reason for existing.

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