Saints Row then.....

[trickytree]

Is it not just this but with brighter colours, super powers and the future? Granted Dave Jones might be running the studio, but what are the chances of it actually being any better than an average GTA clone?

No diss, I want it to be good too.

Well at least that's something different to look forward to - Saint's Row is as cloney as a clone can be.

And Splendid, what the hell put you in such a bad mood? Calm it!

[Wickedkitten]

Shame that people aren't liking it. Even though it's incredibly rough around the edges (and the middle and centre, come to think about it), there's a good game trying to get out. I don't recall the last game that I sat down with and found 4 or 5 hours passed in the blink of an eye, as I was having so much fun with it. I haven't even attempted the storyline yet, random farting about is enough to keep me occupied.

o/\o

[Andy_Why]

I didn't really play around with the character creation tool, but the basic clothes your character comes with are dreadful. The jeans he starts off wearing make him look like he's either wearing a nappy or he's shit himself. I wouldn't call either of those a 'good look'.

[Wickedkitten]

I didn't really play around with the character creation tool, but the basic clothes your character comes with are dreadful. The jeans he starts off wearing make him look like he's either wearing a nappy or he's shit himself. I wouldn't call either of those a 'good look'.

Just do a run over some cholos in a car to get some cash and go to the clothing store then.

[Eighthours]

Is it not just this but with brighter colours, super powers and the future? Granted Dave Jones might be running the studio, but what are the chances of it actually being any better than an average GTA clone?

No diss, I want it to be good too.

Graphically Crackdown is pretty shit, but I did see a video this morning of you "morphing" cars you got into, into meaner machines, and tearing it through the city blowing up cars simply by smacking them hard at speed. Looked fun, and the roads were wide!

[Talk Show Host]

Who played the GTA games for the story and acting?

Surely the acting has always been good... In a low budget gansta crime action movie with Ice Cube in the lead role kind of way...

[Eighthours]

If GTA was making a fuss over throwing people with ragdoll physics, they would probably have an entry on the stats page for the furthest you have thrown someone. They like their stats.

Is there any way to make someone fly, other than a fast hit-and-run or a pipe bomb?

[Splendid]

And Splendid, what the hell put you in such a bad mood? Calm it!

Beertiger. I just get bored with the cliched 'you haven't played it\you're a plant\BOLD CAPITALS OH HOW LAME' accusatory attitude. That and he can barely string a fucking sentence together, yet he's chewing me out the aforementioned trivialities? That put me in a bad mood and so has Saint's Row.

Subsequent investigation has revealed that you can map accelerate\brake to the left stick, so in fact you can drive fully and shoot with accuracy at the same time. That's a pretty good feature and it's under options, if anyone's interested. Kicking people up the arse is not quite as fun as I thought it might be. Cars disappear too quickly and randomly for my liking.

[Paulando]

Mapping accelerate/brake to a control stick is so 1998.

[Beertiger]

I was chewing you out for ignoring what people had written. It culminated in your last post where you accused me of ignoring all of Saints Row faults depsite my prior bitching about frame rate, vanishing world objects, bland street layout and uninspiring art design.

Also yes the all caps thing is lame, anyone who thinks otherwise deserves a swift kick up the ass. You'll also notice I was far my civil than you, actually asking how to use targetting in Parallel Lines rather than ignoring that and bitching about something else unrelated. You need a nap cranky pants.

Anyway to the game. I hope the mission design is pretty decent. I know a lot of people don't care and just play these games to mess around but I like having stucture within the chaos. Plus who's voicing the leader of the gang? It's awful and I can't stand it.

[trickytree]

Beertiger. I just get bored with the cliched 'you haven't played it\you're a plant\BOLD CAPITALS OH HOW LAME' accusatory attitude. That and he can barely string a fucking sentence together, yet he's chewing me out the aforementioned trivialities? That put me in a bad mood and so has Saint's Row.

Fair enough.

So, another 360 game with loads of tearing/frame rate problems. Is it that much of a bitch to code for, or are developers getting worse?

[Sprite Machine]

So, another 360 game with loads of tearing/frame rate problems. Is it that much of a bitch to code for, or are developers getting worse?

It's old code.

[biglime]

The multiplayer modes better be amazing, because the demo is uninspired pish.

And the city? What there is of it so far is awful!

Very disappointing.

Not as good as GTA? It's not even as good as Spiderman 2. It's not even as good as True Crime: Streets of LA, so far.

[Splendid]

I was chewing you out for ignoring what people had written. It culminated in your last post where you accused me of ignoring all of Saints Row faults depsite my prior bitching about frame rate, vanishing world objects, bland street layout and uninspiring art design.

Apologies. I thought you were just stating the obvious, rather than being critical.

Also yes the all caps thing is lame, anyone who thinks otherwise deserves a swift kick up the ass. You'll also notice I was far my civil than you...

See now, this is just a load of old shit, isn't it. In your first reply, you accuse me of not playing the game. In the second, you accuse me of having a hidden agenda. And you've still barely managed to tackle a single issue that I've raised. Seriously, it's like conversing with an uppity school prefect. Jesus, it's like conversing with Rik.

Anyway, I've found an interesting bug. If you go to the farthest SE point in Mission Beach, you should find a walled embankment that passes under the e-train tracks. Drive along the path above the walled embankment, mount the slight wall, get both front and rear tires over the ledge and fall gently over the edge. You should now find your car sticking to that wall. GRAVITY DEFIANCE.

[trickytree]

It's old code.

I remember the Moto GP demo being 'old code', then the full game was just as teary/framey (if not worse).

I think it's rubbish developers - I'd be interested to know how many games are making use of the other cores in the CPU, for example.

[Wickedkitten]

The multiplayer modes better be amazing, because the demo is uninspired pish.

And the city? What there is of it so far is awful!

Very disappointing.

Not as good as GTA? It's not even as good as Spiderman 2. It's not even as good as True Crime: Streets of LA, so far.

But it IS better than Driv3r. Go ahead and try to deny it!

[biglime]

But it IS better than Driv3r. Go ahead and try to deny it!

I got more laughs from Driv3r.

[Beertiger]

Apologies. I thought you were just stating the obvious, rather than being critical.

See now, this is just a load of old shit, isn't it. In your first reply, you accuse me of not playing the game. In the second, you accuse me of having a hidden agenda. And you've still barely managed to tackle a single issue that I've raised. Seriously, it's like conversing with an uppity school prefect. Jesus, it's like conversing with Rik.

Wait I tackled the issues about shooting from the car that you were so up in arms about. As for the accusations and plant thing, jeez they're so embedded into the forum that no one takes them seriously anymore. Or do you actually thik all those thread where pictures of plants pop up are being serious?

You think it's bad talking to me? You'd hate trying to talk to yourself, it's like talking to someone who sticks their fingers in their ears.

Any more issues take it to a PM please, no point in filling up a thread with pointless bickering.

[twohe]

Is there any way to make someone fly, other than a fast hit-and-run or a pipe bomb?

Now it's sounding like my kinda game.

things to try out in the demo

1. Can I make people fly?

i. Try a really fast hit and run.

ii. Try kicking them in the butt.

iii. Try blowing them up with a pipe bomb.

iv. Wait a long time and see if they evolve wings.

v. Try throwing them off a building.

vi. etc etc

How can a game be shit when someone can post a question such as that?

[Wickedkitten]

I got more laughs from Driv3r.

Well yeah, everyone laughed at the game.

[Rowan Morrison]

The multiplayer modes better be amazing, because the demo is uninspired pish.

Kick people up the arse, seriously. If they released it as an arse-kicking simulator without cars for £9.99, I'd buy everyone I know a copy for Christmas. Tonight I'm going to put it on and do nothing but kick people up the arse, and see if I can get a really long Benny Hill line going behind me.

It's one million times better than doing the stupid missions.

[SteveH]

No idea if this is a delorean or not but this link

shows how to glitch through the red demo wall.

Apparently if you go too far you get warped back to the main area. But I've read that you can swim around pretty far and see more of the city along with glitchy textures.

[Rowan Morrison]

I tried to get through the wall last night, after I noticed that you can't drive a car through but if you jump out of a moving car it will go through.

After three or four attempts I went back to kicking people up the arse, to be honest.

[Pob]

There needs to be some kind of Superman cheat, where kicking people up the arse send them flying into the upper floors of a skyscraper or something.

Or a multiplayer mode, where one player boots a civvie towards player 2 (using his super kicking powers), and player two knocks them for six using a bat.

If you can do stuff like that Halo Warthog jumping vids (but better), it might just be worth buying.

[Norante]

Ok, played this last night. I knew it was a GTA rip off, but not such a bloody carbon copy

I made this fat bald bastard character and went about exploring. Soon I crashed the car in an intersection, and other cars stopped. Then, they start shooting at each other, and a cop stops by and shoots everybody, me included? After some more rounds the cop car goes boom, and everyone seems satisfied, end of gun fight. No more cops?

I go check the missions. The voice work is PITFUL. Perhaps because I've been spoiled by San Andreas' excelent voice talent, but Saint's Row needs an overhaul on the dialog side. Some of the characters sound like religious kids learning how to swear and cuss to be cool around new friends.

The cars drive well enough, though not as good as it could be. I know it's for comedy value, but the physics are a little too much when I hit a pedestrian and she goes flying 4 stories high.

Despite all this... I think it will be a good distraction until a proper GTA comes out next year.

[evilwallpaper]

If you get through the wall and get on top of the train you can ride it arround the whole map pretty much, without falling through the ground and respawning. You an pick the AK on the way aswell.

- getting to the AK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq6gY73BLAQ - train ride (follow it from when he picks up the AK)

[hoot]

Been playing some more of this, it's definately growing on me. In regards to the framerate / tearing, if you leave it running on the menu screen all the in game footage looks like it's running a lot better than the demo code. Also gives you a peak at some other places on the map, including quite a nifty jump on to a bridge :] Rocket launcher looks ace as well.

I can't see the single player being much fun but multiplayer, assuming the netcode is decent should be excellent. All the time I've been playing it, just shooting out tyres, riding on top of cars etc, been thinking how much fun it would be to do all with other people.

The voice acting is crap, the graphics aren't great and it is definately lacking the charm of the GTA seriesbut just wondering around, doing your own thing, blowing stuff up, starting riots, whatever is still good fun, "cynical clone" or not :]

[Ayton]

Plus who's voicing the leader of the gang? It's awful and I can't stand it.

I haven't been able to stand Keith David since he made Jennifer Connelly kiss his special place in Requiem For a Dream.

I wish you could switch him off.

[Pob]

Keith David is class, so shut it.

Anyway, I've spent literally two hours just blowing stuff up, shooting people and flinging myself in front of traffic. Oh, and riding on cars taking pot-shots at pursuing cops, which is ace. I think I've extracted most of the fun I can from this game. Still, great explosions...

[therev]

Now I've discovered pipe bombs, I'm even happier.

I can see all the problems with the demo, but I'm having huge amounts of fun with it anyway.