Saints Row then.....

[cubeadvance]

I meant the simple fact their both football games.

Same as this and GTA are both 3PS's set in cities - and any FPS is like any other.

You don't hear Wolfenstein being compared to COD despite their simularities.

Its only because the genre is so young.

Yes but it's not just the fact they are both 3rd person games set in a city. They are both 3rd person games set in a city, which involve completing missions based on gang warfare and illegal activities in a gritty American location, whilst taking control of areas and gaining cash and respect.

The similarities between FIFA and ISS are skin deep, GTA and Saints Row are to the absolute core.

[V3zna]

All these other people who hate the graphics must be Nintendo fanboys as well

No. I am just tired of reading your posts slating everything non Nintendo.

[cubeadvance]

RB

RB to sprint (about the 3rd control you are told in-game), and the camera will auto center after about 5 seconds of driving without touching it. Take it you didn't play too long

*edit* Doh! Beaten

Cool, thanks. I wasn't doing the missions just buggering about for bit. Bit disapointing you need to press something to sprint, I seem to remember the Xbox Half Life 2 got totally panned for doing that. The camera thing really annoyed me though, I'd like to see that being a bit more pronounced. Maybe it's done like that because of the obvious emphasis on drive bys?

[Rowan Morrison]

bollocks do they.

In the demo at least, it's patently untrue. Even little roadblock stands get rest in next to no time. Hopefully the full game will be better, but they're a bit foolish to put out a demo that contradicts their claims so blatantly.

The insurance fraud sounds like a lark, though. I'm also a bit disappointed - shamefully - that once a body is dead the cars don't seem to interact with it any more. I tried backing the rear wheels over a corpse, locking the handbrake and spinning out, but it was a complete dud. Boo!

[Sprite Machine]

Bit disapointing you need to press something to sprint,

It's the same in GTA, is it not? If you sprinted (sprant?!) all the time, you'd wear yourself out. It's like a turbo mode button, or something. Used for emergencies.

[Beertiger]

Multiplayer sounds amazing

Finally, and definitely most entertaining, is Blinged Out Ride. Once again players are split into two teams, charged with stealing a car and upgrading it a number of times. In order to do this, money must be earned to pay for the car-pimping. Nicely, this is executed by applying elements of other multiplayer modes - killing other players or blowing up their cars to steal their cash, or collecting gold chains and returning them to base. Once you have enough cash you can drive your car to an upgrade shop and have it souped up to the next level. Reach level 4, and drop it off at your final base to win.

But, of course, there's the slight hindrance of the other team attempting to do exactly the same thing, and preventing you from succeeding by the rather effective means of blowing your car up. So blow theirs up first, silly. The volume of team-based tactics to apply here are extremely enticing, and our amateur attempts revealed a lot of potential. Four members of your team can get in a car at any time, and then you can go off to perform a drive-by execution of the rival gang members. Or perhaps you'd rather hide your car in a garage and sneak around gathering cash, avoiding the enemy's bullets? Or how about creating a motorcade to protect your main machine from the other gang's fire? Or... See, there's potential here.

All with matchmaking as well! Superb. More info here.

Anyway the greatest thing about the game that I forgot to mention is the recharging health bar. Halo influence for the win!

[Massive Invisible Dog]

No. I am just tired of reading your posts slating everything non Nintendo.

Sweet. They don't exist.

[Pob]

Hold right shoulder button to sprint. Sprint too long and he gets worn out. Not at all like GTA!

...and then bends over while he regains his breath.

It's such a GTA rip that I tried getting in and out of a cop car to get five more shells for my shotgun. That didn't work though

I wish you could pick up bodies, sling them in front of oncoming cars to catapult them into the sea. Jumping in front of speeding vehicles is great fun but I kept ending up in hospital.

What's the easiest way to get some explosives?

[Beertiger]

What's the easiest way to get some explosives?

The only way I've found is to go back to the gun shop after you've been forgiven and buy some pipe bombs. The throwing animation is ace.

[Yewone]

Multiplayer sounds amazing

That does sound great. Atleast the multiplayer side of things will offer something a bit new.. even if the single player doesnt.

[Rowan Morrison]

That FAQ says there are no bikes in the game, which is a shame, because they "didn't have time". Chances of them appearing as a 300-point download? Oh, the cynicism. Sorry.

[Splendid]

You mentioned before that the Driver 4 system as better, can't you only fire forwards in that game? Meaning that you have to aim the car at the person you want to kill.

No. CONGRATULATIONS. HAVE YOU EVEN PLAYED IT? DO YOU WORK FOR VOLITION'S PR OR SOMETHING.

[cubeadvance]

It's the same in GTA, is it not? If you sprinted (sprant?!) all the time, you'd wear yourself out. It's like a turbo mode button, or something. Used for emergencies.

Well shut my mouth. You're totally right.

[Beertiger]

No. CONGRATULATIONS. HAVE YOU EVEN PLAYED IT? DO YOU WORK FOR VOLITION'S PR OR SOMETHING.

Really? How? I played it last night and could only fire forwards. I did like the way the window breaks when the character leans out though. Must have one solid head. Nice that you ignored everything else that proved you wrong, thanks for playing.

[Andy_Why]

I quite enjoyed it, but I'll only be buying the full game if the multiplayer turns out to be as fun as I'd hoped.

The most fun I had though was through launching people with high speed hit and runs. I wish I could measure the distance they flew.

[JohnC]

The most fun I had though was through launching people with high speed hit and runs. I wish I could measure the distance they flew.

If GTA was making a fuss over throwing people with ragdoll physics, they would probably have an entry on the stats page for the furthest you have thrown someone. They like their stats.

[The Liberal Elite]

So, that mission (snatch! lol) where you have to rescue the whores from the abusive pimp and take them back to a presumably kinder, gentler pimp - pretty sweet, huh? If you're about 16 years old.

other shit things - the dialogue, and the pisspoor acting. and the situation.

It's like San Andreas if it had been reverse engineered by a retard.

I quite like the way the map works thoguh.

[Rowan Morrison]

If GTA was making a fuss over throwing people with ragdoll physics, they would probably have an entry on the stats page for the furthest you have thrown someone. They like their stats.

Saint's Row has a stat for street lights knocked over but not for longest airtime. Nice work, you clowns! I'll be knocking down many a light in my quest for fun.

[veryjammy]

So, that mission (snatch! lol) where you have to rescue the whores from the abusive pimp and take them back to a presumably kinder, gentler pimp - pretty sweet, huh? If you're about 16 years old.

Yeah I laughed at that mission. I don't know why, maybe just because the game is so po-faced, and asks you to collect 'hos' as if you were collecting gold coins or stars or something.

And while I accept that the game area may be less bland as the map opens up in the real game, that still doesn't excuse it. Think back to the starting area in San Andreas and how varied and interesting just the area around your house was.

[Smitty]

Saints Row - Welcome to the next gen.

LOL.

[Santas Boyfriend]

Anybody that can't wait to late 2007 for GTA4 could do worse than give Saints Row a try.

That was also my conclusion, based on half an hour with the demo last night. I was initially shocked by the tearing, frame rate etc but in the end I quite liked it. It seemed to be pretty much a GTA clone, albeit with some next gen-ish graphics and slightly poorer production values. The multiplayer modes sound promising too; if you like GTA it's got to be worth a go.

[Number 28]

The most fun I had though was through launching people with high speed hit and runs. I wish I could measure the distance they flew.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFqK_PIyzxw...20row%20%20demo

Crayzee fizzicks!!1

[Splendid]

Really? How? I played it last night and could only fire forwards.

Press the X button to track targets. Drive-by's have never been easier.

I did like the way the window breaks when the character leans out though.

It truly amazes me that you've managed to overlook all of SR's failings, yet bring up this non-affecting Parallel Lines bug. Perhaps if SR had Driver's handling, or SA's character or even True Crime's all-in-one combo platter enthusiasm, then nitpicking shitty graphical bugs might have a level of validity beyond just being a wanker. But, as far as I and many others in this thread can see, SR isn't even average. It's just bad. Terribly, terribly poor in pretty much all respects. If Driver 4 is ten times as good as this (which it is) and SA is ten times as good as that (which, in all fairness, it probably is) then Saint's Row is at the bottom of a very select, critically acclaimed pile. It's probably even under Total Overdose, thinking about it.

Nice that you ignored everything else that proved you wrong, thanks for playing.

What have you proved exactly? That gushing positivity will turn a turd into gold? It's gaming alchemy, that's what it is. I'm going to go back and have another look at SR. See if I can find any cars being swallowed up by the road.

[Massive Invisible Dog]

So, that mission (snatch! lol) where you have to rescue the whores from the abusive pimp and take them back to a presumably kinder, gentler pimp - pretty sweet, huh? If you're about 16 years old.

other shit things - the dialogue, and the pisspoor acting. and the situation.

It's like San Andreas if it had been reverse engineered by a retard.

I quite like the way the map works thoguh.

Who played the GTA games for the story and acting?

[The Liberal Elite]

Who played the GTA games for the story and acting?

It was, at least passable, and even provided a few chuckles once in a while. This is so teethgrindingly bad, I can't ignore it, and it just completly ruins it.

Roll on Crackdown.

[Beertiger]

It truly amazes me that you've managed to overlook all of SR's failings, yet bring up this non-affecting Parallel Lines bug.

You've not actually read any of my posts have you? I've complained about lots of things in the demo.

and a lot of people don't like it yes but if you actually read some posts you'd see that a lot of people are liking it as well. Shocking that isn't it.

In fact this post best somes up this thread

This thread is confusing me.

I think that just this once, I'm going to have to download it and make up my own mind.

I think the people that like it have recognised it's problems but also realise it's an E3 build and the final game looks to offer so much more, especially with multiplayer.

[Splendid]

To be honest Beertiger, I find it fucking difficult to read any of your posts, let alone the fantastic contributions in this thread.

[TehStu]

Shame that people aren't liking it. Even though it's incredibly rough around the edges (and the middle and centre, come to think about it), there's a good game trying to get out. I don't recall the last game that I sat down with and found 4 or 5 hours passed in the blink of an eye, as I was having so much fun with it. I haven't even attempted the storyline yet, random farting about is enough to keep me occupied.

[Exit Chamber]

Roll on Crackdown.

Is it not just this but with brighter colours, super powers and the future? Granted Dave Jones might be running the studio, but what are the chances of it actually being any better than an average GTA clone?

No diss, I want it to be good too.

[Beertiger]

To be honest Beertiger, I find it fucking difficult to read any of your posts, let alone the fantastic contributions in this thread.

What, my contributions actually discussing how the game plays and it's flaws instead of your excellent "IT@S SHIT IT'S THIST", because capitals are king of course. Hmmm, I don't think i'm too bothered about what you think. I don't recall any of your posts other than those in here, and you seem like a bit of a re re unable to grasp simple concepts or only reading one line before replying in outrage with SNAPPY ONE LINER. At least other people who don't like it are engaging in discussion. You're just a troll. Now go play something good, I'm done with you.