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roskelld

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For me, Dandy, it is somewhat redundant if Sky can delivery excellent coverage or not. As Marsh says, I am not paying £600 a year to watch F1. Even if that F1 budget then allows me to watch all of the football, all of the time...

I don't think it does, does it? IIRC Sky Sports only have about half of the premiership matches, the rest are on ESPN. So to watch ALL of the football you need to extend that subscription to ESPN too.

I'm sure Barney Francis, Managing Director of Sky Sports, said it best "This is fantastic news," What fan doesn't want to take multiple subscriptions out to watch the sports they love? Me? I look forward to the day where I have to buy my breakfast cereal in one shop, then drive across town to buy the milk in another, it's what the fans want.

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SeanR

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I've just posted a comment on a vodafone mclaren mercedes FB post instructing them to tell Lewis and Jenson to only win races being shown on the BBC.

surely there's some grass roots internet movement thing we can start to get bernie to give the money ba... oh, wait.

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mexos

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PREPARE THE MEGA LULZ

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93491

Formula 1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone has promised that the sport's audience will grow with the onset of Sky's pay-to-view television deal from 2012.

A surprise deal was announced on Friday morning that the BBC and Sky Sports will share coverage of the sport in the UK from 2012 - with the satellite and cable broadcaster showing all live sessions while the BBC transmits only half on terrestrial digital television - prompting a wave of angry responses from license holders on internet forums and Twitter.

But Ecclestone, speaking after leaving a meeting to address the subject with F1's team principals, insisted that the deal is positive for the sport.

"It's good for Formula 1," he said. "For sure there are going to be a lot more people viewing, and a lot more opportunities for people to view, so from that point I'm very happy.

"I've been finalising this all night long and one or two things might change a little."

"Sky will broadcast everything, all the races, live. The Beeb will do 50 per cent live, and when it isn't live, they will be putting together a very good highlights package.

"They [bBC] may yet do the whole race deferred, we have to see."

Asked what he would say to fans who could not afford a Sky subscription, Ecclestone replied: "That's where the problem is, I know, but from what I understand Sky has enormous coverage, 10 million homes.

"For those who can't watch Sky, they can still watch on a Sunday night, which will probably be better than watching the whole race live half the time," he added.

Ecclestone added that the deal was not complicated by issues surrounding the current Concorde Agreement because the covenant comes to an end prior to the beginning of the Sky contract.

"The Concorde finishes in 2012," he said. "After then there may not be one, we don't need one. We'll see.

"But I think this is all positive, and having spoken to the teams, they think it's positive too."

Along with indicating that the deal was likely to mean more income for the teams, Ecclestone spoke about the general onset of pay-per-view television and how the media landscape affected F1 in the future.

"We do have to do the best we can, and I'm interested in getting the maximum coverage because we have to invest in the future for the good of the teams and for Formula 1," he said.

"I think in the end people will be more happy with this than they are at the moment."

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Halo

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I genuinely don't understand why the BBC would accept the deal. They're simply paying a hefty price in order to promote Sky. It really is the worst of all worlds. Farcical.

The BBC should have walked away and let F1 highlights rot on Channel 5.

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Masu

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Horrible decision.

Even Sky subscribers will hate it, remember not long ago when it was on ITV and they insisted to cram in ad breaks?

And Brundle having to apologise to the viewers and show what happened "while they were away.." And as Sky are MUCH worse for the amount of ads and their efforts to elbow them into every possible crevice..

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Dandy_Sephy

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Horrible decision.

Even Sky subscribers will hate it, remember not long ago when it was on ITV and they insisted to cram in ad breaks?

And Brundle having to apologise to the viewers and show what happened "while they were away.." And as Sky are MUCH worse for the amount of ads and their efforts to elbow them into every possible crevice..

Already been ruled out
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the_debaser

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Horrible decision.

Even Sky subscribers will hate it, remember not long ago when it was on ITV and they insisted to cram in ad breaks?

And Brundle having to apologise to the viewers and show what happened "while they were away.." And as Sky are MUCH worse for the amount of ads and their efforts to elbow them into every possible crevice..

There are no ads, it's been confirmed.

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wev

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The most annoying thing about this is that the announcement could have waited until they'd actually sorted out what was going to be happening as Bernie's now reported to be saying the BBC could be showing the whole race, just delayed until after the Sky Sports coverage (i.e. the extended highlights comment we saw earlier), it just smacks of the rather amateur behaviour we've seen on occasion from the FIA this season (such as the whole debacle prior to Silverstone).

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McCoy

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And Brundle having to apologise to the viewers and show what happened "while they were away.." And as Sky are MUCH worse for the amount of ads and their efforts to elbow them into every possible crevice..

Let's not completely over blow this. Sky have already confirmed that there will be no adverts and there are not adverts in the majority of their movie or sports coverage anyway.

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Blu3Flame

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I've never understood why FOM have never bothered to stream races online. It seems like a no brainer to sort out an online subscription service with the raw commentary free FOM feed. Currently there are a lot of people in countries which don't receive/or receive limited F1 coverage using things like iPlayer via TOR or websites such as UStream/JustinTV to watch F1 online.

I'd rather pay a smaller fee for an online only service than the astronomical Sky fees.

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Halo

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Showing races as-live wouldn't necessarily be that bad, assuming they got the full treatment rather than half-arsed coverage.

Another concern is that Sky would get first choice on which races to show, so the BBC would be lumped with the races on at 5am and boring processions like Valencia and Monaco, while Sky would get Spa and the finale.

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Masu

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Let's not completely over blow this. Sky have already confirmed that there will be no adverts and there are not adverts in the majority of their movie or sports coverage anyway.

As I said, source?

Just asking, as I just haven't been following the Sky takeover stuff all that much until now, to be honest.

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JohnC

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Showing races as-live wouldn't necessarily be that bad, assuming they got the full treatment rather than half-arsed coverage.

Another concern is that Sky would get first choice on which races to show, so the BBC would be lumped with the races on at 5am and boring processions like Valencia and Monaco, while Sky would get Spa and the finale.

BBC are said to be getting British, Monaco and the final race, plus 7 others.

As I said, source?

Sky have said it many times in many places.

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marsh

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Since when was Monaco boring?

Every year prior to this one?

It's usually a terrible race, like it's been mentioned, they'll get the shit races and ones which don't clash with the antiques roadshow.

I understand there are 'ahem' devices for getting sky on the sly? :ph34r:

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PaB

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I can't see that being the case. Why On earth would sky stump up a fortune to have races that people can watch free to air a couple of hours after, it makes no sense. Sky are doing this to attract new customers, where is the incentive to pay £600 a year?

I don't buy it for one second. Extended highlights sure, the entire race? Not a chance.

Aside from all this, since when did Bernie Ecclestone decide BBC programming.

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Dandy_Sephy

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Every year prior to this one?

It's usually a terrible race, like it's been mentioned, they'll get the shit races and ones which don't clash with the antiques roadshow.

I understand there are 'ahem' devices for getting sky on the sly? :ph34r:

ah well, thats the trouble as i'd not watched F1 for years prior to this years Monaco. I never understood it to be terrible though, even during the intervening time. It always seems popular, and boring races aren't popular (see a few races ago - Montreal?)

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