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rafaqat

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Yes, but that is just the hardware. Each team runs their own software.

iirc The ECU has 8 driver selectable maps.

Software is the same too. Teams are allowed to tune the software with various config. It's not hard to plug into the car and check the same config has been used in quali and the race surely? Part of normal scrutineering I would have thought.

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Comparing Sterling Moss to Robert Kubica really doesn't work though, the physicality of the sport is so much more different now to what it was then.

Mind, I could beat Kubica round a track right now, not so sure about Moss.

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That blog says he is not needing a stick any more.

The photos/video of him using one are over a month old.

Also there have been other comebacks after big smashes, even in days when medicine was less advanced.

Schumacher smashed up his leg and came back to win WDCs. He also, more recently smashed himself up motorcycle racing and came back from that.

Webber smashed up his leg, then later the same season dislocated his shoulder, yet he nearly won the WDC.

Brundle had a monster crash he came back from. 1984 in Dallas he smashed up both ankles and both feet, yet this was at the beginning of his F1 career.

I don't think either of the schumacher incidents compare to the list of faults under repair with Kubica. Fair point, you shouldn't compare them across such a vast timescale, which leaves only massa as a yardstick and he's not the same driver he was when brawn decided to bounce stuff off his helmet. Herbert nearly cut off both his legs and went on to a so so f1 career, but then so did zanardi in wtcc.

There's only one driver I can think of as close to being dead as that and that's Lauda, which probably still isn't a fair comparison. Had Kubica not gone rallying I think he'd have had a sniff of the wdc, especially in light of how well the usually rubbish petrov has performed. The renault is a quick car with a pair of shit drivers.

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Sad but I fear true. A year on from my hand surgery and the build up of scar tissue is still a problem - and that's with full mobility. God knows what he's going to have to contend with when everything's healed. Thats just the start of his rehabilitation.

That's completely irrelevant, just looking at that list of procedures they performed on Kubica shows he's getting top level help as you'd expect plus physiotherapy afterwards. His job now is getting back to where he was before the accident, full time high level training and optimal nutrition which I'm fairly certain isn't what you received or performed on your hand.

I reckon he'll be back in F1 next year.

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Saw Senna tonight. Very good.

I didn't know much about the politics back then when I was watching. Hell, I didn't even know Balestre until recent years. So it was interesting to see them dicking him about with weird decisions. Not a lot changed there then. A lot of stuff seemed to happen at Japanese GPs in particular. But I suppose a big part of that was with it being near the end of the season.

That first Monaco GP where he finished second was amazing. As was his first Brazilian win, pushing himself through the pain on the podium.

Anyone know anything about that guy he talked about from his karting days when asked about the person he liked driving against, or similar? Imagine being the unknown (?) guy Senna said he admired :D

Terry Fullerton. He was in the times the other week talking about racing against Ayrton. Amazing to think he jacked it all in due to the danger.

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That blog says he is not needing a stick any more.

The photos/video of him using one are over a month old.

Also there have been other comebacks after big smashes, even in days when medicine was less advanced.

Schumacher smashed up his leg and came back to win WDCs. He also, more recently smashed himself up motorcycle racing and came back from that.

Webber smashed up his leg, then later the same season dislocated his shoulder, yet he nearly won the WDC.

Brundle had a monster crash he came back from. 1984 in Dallas he smashed up both ankles and both feet, yet this was at the beginning of his F1 career.

The injuries of all 3 were not remotely close to those of Robert.

Better example might be Johnny Herbert (never the same again).

Alex Zanardi won a WTCC title 4 years after losing both legs...

No he didn't, he's never won the WTCC. He has won a race or two of course.

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The injuries of all 3 were not remotely close to those of Robert.

Better example might be Johnny Herbert (never the same again).

No he didn't, he's never won the WTCC. He has won a race or two of course.

TRUFAX. He finished 10th according to wikipedia. He won 4 races in 5 years.

christ, the way they were going on about it you'd think he'd won the thing.

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Herbert had quite a promising start, till the cringeworthy crash in f3. I can still see his feet flailing about like clothes on a washing line even now. Grim.

Petrov and heidfeld are shit. I fully expect at least one of them to get fired before the end of the year. The car is capable of more than those two clowns are delivering, people seem to have forgotten the russians ability to get more air than I've ever seen driving my quad. Even heidfeld couldn't repeat the feat driving over the front of his own car!

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TRUFAX. He finished 10th according to wikipedia. He won 4 races in 5 years.

christ, the way they were going on about it you'd think he'd won the thing.

To be fair it was an achievement, I believe he had a hand operated accelerator and could still operate a brake with the prosthetic. He also had the handicap of a 30KG weigh penalty most years for running a sequential shifter (or perhaps paddles) as he couldn't operate the other option.

He retired from racing to train for the 2012 Paralympic marathon.

Fwiw, Herbert's crash as in F3000, not F3, in one of Eddie Jordan's cars I believe.

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I stand corrected, said the man with the orthapedic shoe.

Partridge should do some f1 commentary.

Herbert was still pulling bits of grass out of his heels years after the event. Donnelly was quite handy too until his Lotus fell apart.

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To be fair it was an achievement, I believe he had a hand operated accelerator and could still operate a brake with the prosthetic. He also had the handicap of a 30KG weigh penalty most years for running a sequential shifter (or perhaps paddles) as he couldn't operate the other option.

He had no legs though, so at least he got the 30Kg back.

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Terry Fullerton. He was in the times the other week talking about racing against Ayrton. Amazing to think he jacked it all in due to the danger.

It's interesting, especially as you mention Lauda's crash which is probably the worst that anyone's survived in F1 (and amazing he won the WDC afterwards). He pulled out of races (IIRC?) because of safety after he'd had that big smash.

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It's interesting, especially as you mention Lauda's crash which is probably the worst that anyone's survived in F1 (and amazing he won the WDC afterwards). He pulled out of races (IIRC?) because of safety after he'd had that big smash.

I'm sure I read that he was read his last rites after the incident. Equally I'd put Donnellys and Zanardis accident up there with his, though neither driver was in the same league that he was. Lauda didn't want to race in Germany, but the other drivers out voted him....

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Oh and, Headache, I had a look around the cinema but couldn't see you. My friend did find it 'amusing' that I was texting a guy I 'knew on the internet' :lol:

Same here, my mates were joking with me about it too. I kept looking around the theatre before the lights went out and even tried to see everyone as they left but didn't spot you.

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In light of my viewing Senna tonight, I felt compelled to make this:

jmbalestre.jpg

It's surprisingly easy to do when you know how, if a little time consuming.

He was a massive bell end. Just picked up the mantle of being the worlds biggest knobsack and smashed it out of the park. 'the best decision is my decision!' Needs turning into a number of t shirts pronto.

I do hope there's a senna effect from this which gets more people into the sport, much like on any sunday did in the 70's.

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Break out the bucket and spade, it's Valencia

Welcome back race fans. After the exceptionally soggy Canada we return to Europe for the next round of races, starting off at Valencia.

Now I dont really mind the track at Valencia. It has a few interesting touches, a bridge over the dock yard entrance, a fast run between the walls to test the brave. But there in lies the problem with this harbour side track, it's not Monaco. The track is wide enough for three cars pretty much everywhere, so there is no real sense of danger as in Monaco. And because its in a dockyard there are no punters for big sections on the track. No punters means no atmosphere what so ever, unless you have a thing for containers and cranes you weirdo.

On the wide shots of the track you can see miles of golden sandy beaches off in the distance, packed full of happy holiday makers who are totally oblivious to the grand prix taking place not more than 200 yards away.

The races over the years have lacked a certain something. Like Turkey and China there are interesting races out there, but very little to get the pulse racing. Last year the only memorable moment was Webber attempting to go for the long jump distance record after trying to roughly mount the back of a lotus.

This year with the tires, KERS, and floppy rear wing we have been getting some pretty exciting races. Even the race in Barcelona kept your attention to the end, so you never know there might be something on here.

Except ....... can you see anyone other than Vettel winning ? Another podium result for the young German here and its going to be all over as a championship by Hungary ! and yet people are already calling this a classic year?

Team wise there is very little grumbling from Redbull these days, as Webber comes to terms with being the far and away number two driver this year despite some of his best driving in years. He's had to drive from way back on the grid numerous times and demonstrated a commendable ability to not hit anyone else in the process. Yet his smug team mate is sticking it on the front of the grid and winning with ease from there.

However, the future isn't looking too rosy as the FIA seem determined to stop the teams for using the engine over run to power the diffuser in and out of corners. They've still not really explained just how they plan on policing this rule, but ban it they will from the British GP. This is going to affect Redbull more than most so they're complaining the most about it. Only that by the time the ban comes in Vettel will have all already cleared a space on the desk for the silverware. Oh well. However from this weekend, teams will not be able to run a qualifying engine map which means the likes of Redbull cant run the engine turned all the way up to 11 on the fuel dial. Then turn it back to nine for the race. McLaren have been making a big song and dance over the Redbull having all this extra power for qualifying and how its not fair, so the FIA are banning qualifying engine settings. So far Redbull have locked out the front row in qualifying at every round, could we be about to see a new pole driver ?

In the next door pit, McLaren have one happy driver and one very out of sorts driver. The persistent rumours that Hamilton is going to Redbull next year refuse to go away. Whilst Button has or is about to sign an extension on his contract with McLaren.

The Woking team are the next best thing this year, being the only team other than Redbull to win a race. Yet its only been when Redbull have made a mistake that the McLaren driver have been able to capitalise. They can take the fight to Vettel, but they don't have the car to win on merit just yet. This, it would appear is what is frustrating Hamilton the most. He's over driving the car and making mistake after mistake. He did this last year in Monza after the second corner crash with Massa, the next 4 races saw Hamilton just throw caution to the wind and he went all Banzai all over the place. Its as if he is so desperate to win that second championship that he forgets to win, first you have to finish. What he really needs right now is his father telling him to calm it down son and stop being an arse, but I think that bridge may have been burned for too long now.

To be fair though, I though Button chopped him in Canada. It was a touch unnecessary of button to come quite that far across the track after getting the chicane wrong. But, well Button was riding Lady Luck that weekend like she was a $400 hooker, he was having the ride of his life and there was no stopping him what so ever. So Hamilton was unlucky as far as I was concerned, but it is messing with his head.

Anyway, it could be worse, he could be driving for Ferrari where is appears its a whole road of wrong down that end of the pits. They dont even look like getting a sniff of the top step at the moment. Alonso is ragging the arse of the car but its just not delivering the results for him. Two podiums in Monaco and Turkey have come as others have cocked it up and are scant reward for all the hard work hes put in. Whilst Massa still doesnt look like the driver that won the championship for 30 seconds in 2008, hes had moment of brilliance but hes not stringing a weekend together any more. Maybe there is some truth to the rumour that Button is going to Ferrari when Massa moves on, I certainly dont see Massa getting a ride with the red horse next year.

Alonso has been talking up this weekend, its in Spain and hes Spanish and all. The Ferrari might stand a chance here, especially if the Redbull qualifying engine is turned off. I dont think a win is on the cards, but a podium is a possibility if Hamilton, button and Webber come unstuck.

As for the rest ? Well Mercedes appear to be getting their act together at last. Mickey has the bit between his teeth and could have bagged himself a podium in Canada, whilst Nico continues to be almost fantastic.

Renault, are having a bit of a moan about the engine over run ban. If you have a look at the footage from Canada you can see the side exit exhaust in front of the side pods blowing the water away. Its a brilliant idea and in the hands of better drivers that car should be on the podium. Kubica is still making noises about coming back before the end of the year. But I think hes done too much damage to his body and is just not going to have the flexibility he once had. Heidfeld hasnt really made the grade and Petrov is just ….well … very Russian.

The rest are rubbish and I cant be arsed to write anymore.

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