Sport The Formula 1 Thread

[JohnC]

They'll fuckin' cut ya'.

[Snowman]

China was always pretty boring without any rain but given what happened at this year's race, I suppose that even Barcelona has a chance at providing some spectacle.

[marsh]

Could be interesting. Old caburys is a bit shaky when he has to do more than pass the table salt.

[SharkyOB]

I thought it was a pun at first, but now I'm convinced that Bob does think 'clever' is spelt 'cleaver'. It's a revelation!

His post are generally very cleaver though.

[morcs]

You don't need sidewaysbob's posts to be spelled correctly to enjoy them, if anything it makes them more fun!

[mexos]

oh for FUCKS SAKE.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91481

Consult everyone needed, make a decision and stick with it. Don't fucking do this! Once again the FIA make themselves look like incompetent buffoons.

:facepalm:

[Sidewaysbob]

I blame spell check not knowing what I ment to write

As for the FIA

[SharkyOB]

oh for FUCKS SAKE.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91481

Consult everyone needed, make a decision and stick with it. Don't fucking do this! Once again the FIA make themselves look like incompetent buffoons.

:facepalm:

Bizarre. I only found out about this about an hour ago; now it's been scrapped. Does make the FIA look a bit silly.

[SeanR]

I thought it was a pun at first, but now I'm convinced that Bob does think 'clever' is spelt 'cleaver'. It's a revelation!

His post are generally very cleaver though.

I thought it was an austrian accent...

[Halo]

In the FIA's defence, it would be a bit harsh to implement it at such short notice before the Spanish GP.

[Sidewaysbob]

I think they realised they just couldn't police it effectively.

[kiroquai]

From what I gathered it looks like they've ditched the entire idea completely, which is a tiddly bit silly. Announcing it a couple of days before tech inspection at Barcelona was bad enough, but it looks like they've gone to talk to the teams after deciding this and been told it's unworkable, making it look like they decided on it without actually even getting some advice or input from the people who design the cars.

A little bit silly. Then again, at the Canadian GP in 1993 they introduced a new wording of the rules that was so badly written that all the cars on the grid apart from the BMS Lolas were declared illegal

[SharkyOB]

I think they realised they just couldn't police it effectively.

That was my first thought when reading the original article on this, how the hell will they know that a maximum of 10% of open throttle gases are passing through the diffuser?

The only way to effectively do something about this would be to ban blown diffusers completely, which I'd imagine would mean a fairly major redesign of the car's exhausts.

[morcs]

I'll ask my mate who worked on integrating the FIA ECU thing a couple of years back, but I'd imagine it has access to exhaust sensor data.

Edit: He said "yeah i think the FIA can look at any telemetry channels they want, and the engine guys must be monitoring this"

[Eighthours]

Maybe they’ll have an FIA official standing at each corner listening for the BRAPBRAP.

Or N-Dubz. They'd spot it for sure.

[Danster]

A high level source indicated that the decision had been taken because a number of 'unforeseen and unintended consequences' of the ban had been brought to the FIA's attention.

Trsnlation

A high level source indicated that the decision had been taken because Ferrari have just figured out how to do it too had been brought to the FIA's attention.

[Dudley]

Surprise F1 nerd question!

What is this, and why is it special?

[marsh]

So, spanish GP is back to a fizzy drinks parade, just been reading Mr Horners comments on the bbc's website. Smug fucker.

[kiroquai]

John Surtees, Ferrari, Mexico or Watkins Glen 1964 (I think). Special as Enzo Ferrari had 'quit' F1 and the cars were being run under the North American Racing Team banner, and also as it was the only time (I think) that Ferrari ran their cars in anything other than red.

[Sidewaysbob]

You are officially more nerdy than me

[kiroquai]

I have a horribly sad backlog of F1 knowledge nerdily stored in my brain. Read so many books since I was 6 that it all kind of just jammed itself in there.

Wish the same had happened at school with things like maths and sciences .

[Dudley]

John Surtees, Ferrari, Mexico or Watkins Glen 1964 (I think). Special as Enzo Ferrari had 'quit' F1 and the cars were being run under the North American Racing Team banner, and also as it was the only time (I think) that Ferrari ran their cars in anything other than red.

Yep, Surtees actually clinched the championship in it too. Technically, Ferrari should have one fewer championship to their name and "North American Racing Team" should have one.

Enzo was having a strop over the FIA approving a new sportscar.

It came up elsewhere because people were posting cars that aren't what they clearly are. This was one that IS what they clearly aren't.

For those new to F1, some of these may confuse...

This is not a Red Bull.

This is not a McLaren

This is not a Ferrari.

[kiroquai]

Sauber, Frentzen, Monaco '95

Alfa Romeo, Baldi, Paul Ricard '83

Dallara, Pirro, Silverstone '91

I know you didn't ask, but I felt the urge

[Dudley]

Although I could be picky about the Dallara thing since as you know, Dallara wasn't running the car.

Do you know any other cars that aren't what they appear to be, I'm struggling to think of more.

[kiroquai]

This isn't a Benetton

EDIT: True, true, Scuderia Italia 1991 would have been correct .

[Dudley]

Ooh good one, it's not even a Toleman. That's Alboreto in a Tyrrell isn't it?

[kiroquai]

Certainly is!

Re: Toleman, interesting to think that the official Renault team in 1981 - 1985 raced against what was to become the second generation of Renault in the form of Toleman.

EDIT: This is a fun one - this most certainly wasn't a Ferrari!

[Dudley]

Haha. You have to pick the right angle for that one to work at all

[JohnC]

This isn't a Benetton

EDIT: True, true, Scuderia Italia 1991 would have been correct .

WTF is going on with the back wing?

[kiroquai]

Hah yeah, cool isn't it? It was the first year (1983) where ground effects had been banned (forgetting the 1981 saga - another story full of hilarious FIA ineptitude there!) and some of the teams went a bit 'out there' with the wings to try and get maximum downforce. Toleman had this beast, for example:

Also, this wasn't a Benetton either... nor a Tyrrell!

EDIT: Spoilered for large image size.