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kiroquai

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They should so bring it back. Why spend all that money and not get the F1 race back?

I suspect they'll end up back there sooner rather than later - Big Bernie is keen, and what with Red Bull doing such a good job at the moment it makes sense for them to have a home race. I know they've said they will only use it for DTM races etc, but yeah...

... this circuit makes me wish I was a millionaire though, as I would have loved to have rebuilt both the A1 Ring layout and the old Österreichring around the outside to use too. That circuit was the dog's balls.

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Got the last 10 minutes of the show, is it worth watching on iPlayer?

It's very low-brow. He spent the first 15-20 minutes explaining that a piston that fits the liner is much more efficient than one with a gap around it, really patronising.

Some of the other stuff was more interesting though, like testing steel vs carbon propshafts on an 8000Nm torque buster.

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It's very low-brow. He spent the first 15-20 minutes explaining that a piston that fits the liner is much more efficient than one with a gap around it, really patronising.

Some of the other stuff was more interesting though, like testing steel vs carbon propshafts on an 8000Nm torque buster.

I find Hamster quite annoying, but I have take a look so iplayer this evening then.

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kiroquai

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From tidbits I have gathered around various forums and news sites, they were all rather drunk and this Lux guy started ripping into Sutil about his career going nowhere and him not getting the Renault seat for the past few years. Hamilton might be in trouble for giving a misleading statement that hasn't matched the CCTV footage.

In other news, I have bought a ticket to Friday at Silverstone this year. Went to see the race in 05 - 07 (will see if I can rip some of my home video footage for you folks at some point or other) and Free Practice in 09 - am really looking forward to going again :).

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kiroquai

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Adrian Newey has spoken on Senna's death (from Autosport).

Adrian Newey has described Ayrton Senna's death as a "dreadful" event for him, admitting the Brazilian's accident changed him.

"Well, the little hair I had all fell out in the aftermath. So it changed me physically. It was dreadful," said Newey, the chief designer at Williams when Senna was killed in 1994, in an interview with the Guardian newspaper.

"Both Patrick Head and myself separately asked ourselves whether we wanted to continue in racing. Did we want to be involved in a sport where people can die in something we've created?

"Secondly, was the accident caused by something that broke through poor or negligent design? And then the court case started."

He added: "The court case was a depressing annoyance, and extra pressure, but it did not make me question whether I wanted to be involved in F1. It's the self-searching rather than the accusations that really matter."

Newey insisted, however, that he came close to quitting the sport after the accident.

"Yes. For the whole team it was incredibly difficult. I remember the day after the race was a bank holiday Monday and some of us came in to try and trawl though the data and work out what happened. They were dark weeks."

The Red Bull tech chief admitted he is not planning to watch the new Senna movie, as it would be too painful for him.

"No. It would not be an easy thing to do."

A 'depressing annoyance' is a pretty good description of that court case really.

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I think at the time even the Italians said it was just going through the motions. As Senna had "technically not"* died at the circuit it was manslaughter. But there was no one to blame because it was on a racing circuit theat he'd been injured and it was his choice to race or something.

*the FIA denied he died at the circuit so the race could continue and there would be no come back on the them - so i'm lead to believe, alegidly.

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kiroquai

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Italian law has made things difficult in the past, although I do believe in Senna's instance he was 'technically' alive until the evening. It's all a bit of a result of the 1961 von Trips tragedy - both Colin Chapman and Jim Clark, who had been involved in the crash, had to flee the country to avoid being arrested and charged with manslaughter. Chapman had a few issues in Italy come to think of it, what with Rindt and Peterson's deaths.

But yes, I believe that Italian law is written in a way that if a death is declared at the circuit, the event must be stopped immediately and cancelled.

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Surely in this day and age that has to be FIA policy also? I can't imagine a scenario where a driver dies and Brundle/DC carry on chatting for another hour or more.

The show must go on, if the driver doesn't die at the circuit it's game on. <_<

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kiroquai

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Could be, although I'd assume it might be an unwritten rule as I can't imagine the police of each seperate country agreeing to basically sweep someone's death to one side to continue a sporting event.

Interesting point though!

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kiroquai

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Oooh, interesting!

One thing that has me worried: Pirelli are taking more durable hard tyres to Barcelona.

Why? The tyres have been great this year, and if there was ever a circuit that you'd think high tyre wear would improve the show, Barcelona would be it <_<

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^^ Because 4 changes is too many. It's a lottery by that point. They're not doing that with the softs, just making sure the hards last longer than the softs do, rather than just being slower versions of the same thing.

Could be, although I'd assume it might be an unwritten rule as I can't imagine the police of each seperate country agreeing to basically sweep someone's death to one side to continue a sporting event.

Interesting point though!

I don't know about sweeping but events aren't generally stopped for deaths even now, the crowd didn't even find out about Henry Surtees until we left the circuit for example.

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