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dayte

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The team were ruled to have infringed technical rules relating to the size of the uppermost rear wing element.

Perez, a 21-year-old Mexican, had won widespread praise for his performance, and making just one stop in the race.

The exclusion promoted Scot Paul di Resta in the Force India to a point-scoring 10th position on his debut.

Sauber have announced they will appeal against the decision.

Technical director James Key said: ""This is a very surprising and disappointing result. It appears that there is a question over the top surface of the uppermost rear wing element, this area is not the working surface of the component and therefore relatively unimportant to its function.

"Certainly this has not lead to any performance advantage. We are checking the design of the parts now to better understand the situation and we intend to appeal the decision made by the stewards."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9437693.stm

Bollocks!

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JohnC

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Why do they only seem to spot these things after a race? Do stewards not go over cars earlier? I know higher placed cars would get an extra going over after a race, but do they not do a pre-season check on all cars to make sure they conform to regs? Although that may be difficult for HRT.

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Shimmyhill

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His car is the same as Webber's and is served by a non-exclusive engine. Obviously Newey's genius is at work but you can't define a result by one engineer. He's simply the fastest driver out there and seems to cope better than even Lewis did despite being younger. I feel sorry for Vettel in a way, in a few years he'll have won several titles and people will inevitably be calling him the new Schumacher. And, like Schumacher, they'll forget how unbelievably fast he actually was even when paired with a supposedly inferior car.

His car is at least a second a lap quicker, when his car was only 1/2 sec quicker he was routinely beaten by better drivers in slower cars...

Stick Alonso, Hamilton or Buton in the redbull and lets see what I can really do

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wev

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Oh, meant to ask. How does the Fantasy F1 Team scoring work? The race results before the Sauber rear wing disqualification would result in me having Hamilton (2nd), Kobayashi (8th) and Massa (9th)all within the points. But after the disqualification I'm left with Hamilton (2nd) and Massa (7th). If I'm remembering the FIA points correctly, I'd get 24 points for both versions of the standings?

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Dudley

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Stewards or not, Perez walked in as a rookie and beat a teammate who is genuinely bloody good. If somehow that is a performance enhancing illegal win, Kamui had it too.

He and Petrov have both done themselves huge credit today.

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Sidewaysbob

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Right then ... according to the FIA site as of 6.42pm the Saubers are still in the top 10. So, I'm going to wait until midnight tonight as per the rules and see if the FIA issue a new result. They're normally pretty sharp on updating their documentations.

It does say preliminary of course so i may well be inclined to wait until the official result is published anyway.

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Documents/aus-race-classification.pdf

So bear with me whilst the FIA get their act together. ;):coffee:

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morcs

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I like KERS, it mixes things up and it's clearly a very difficult engineering challenge.

Peoples' complaint is once everybody has it they'll all just use it at the same time, but so far we're a long way from everybody having it, and half of those that do can't get it working. Great place to try and make advancements in battery technology too.

Clearly Red Bull can go fast enough without it, but it leaves them vunerable at the start and in DRS situations - a good thing!

One thing I would change though would be how it's limited - at the moment they're restricted to 80hp for 6 seconds or whatever it is, which means (assuming they get it working) the only variable they can play with is weight/location. Why not restrict them to a certain number of Joules of energy recovered? That way it's up to them to make the best use of it.

I wonder even what they'd end up with if there were no limits other than the fact that they can only get the energy from braking.

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marsh

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Could just be a level of tiredness that I had while watching it, but that for me was awful.

The only highlight of the event was Eddie Jordan collaring Niki Lauda and him giving it to the FIA straight about KERS and DRS. Unmitigated shite.

But then I'm still grumpy about my own race yesterday so it's probably not representative of the rest of the world. :hmm:

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wev

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The second of those documentaries was genuinely moving. Even though I've seen or read about all that before, and despite my lack of attachment to it all having not even been born by then, I still found it all genuinely upsetting, especially Roger Williamson's death and the sheer desperation in David Purley's actions.

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Big Gus

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Yeah thanks for the heads up Myoozikk. A thoroughly enjoyable but slightly disturbing couple of hours telly.

Watched the full re-reun earlier. Decent race, enjoyed it. Was pleased with Di Restas performance, something to build on there.

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choddo

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So... how DID Perez manage to get those tyres to last so long?

Button was insane to think he'd get away with that. Although he was ahead for one split second just before they turned in although clearly on the outside of the corner so is that really ahead?

And... that didn't look nearly as good as the qualifying, more like the upscaled stuff. What's going on? Mind you, the pic and sound was balls for me as my old Sky box is starting to play silly buggers again with the recording fritzing regularly. Must look at those capacitors again, didn't replace them all when I did them last time, only the ones that looked worn out.

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djbhammer

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Gutted for Sauber. I hope their appeal is successful but I just can't see it being overturned somehow. They could have a very competitive season.

For Perez to just make one stop on his debut and keep putting in very respectable lap times on unknown Pirelli tyres clearly shows this is a driver of immense talent and one to watch out for this season.

With regards Hispania, I really don't know why this team is in F1. They are embarassing and I can't see them making the 107% rule in any race this season to be honest. Financially they are struggling, and you know they have problems when you see the 'this could be you' advertising on the sidepod. :facepalm:

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Agent L

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Gutted for Sauber. I hope their appeal is successful but I just can't see it being overturned somehow. They could have a very competitive season.

Whilst I'm sad that Perez has had his glory taken away from him I am pretty happy about the ramifications for my fantasy team. I'm now first in our league and 11th overall :D

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