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Guys, any idea for a retirement gift for a lady at work who is massively into F1?

I don't wanna spend too much on a work colleague, but we have some great Monday morning chats after the race, so it'd be nice to get her something.

Do you happen to live in West London. At Westfield in Shepherds Bush there's a shop called "Wheels of Sport" that has lots of motor racing stuff. I've never seen a customer in there, so it might not be there for long!

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The first three tracks of the season don't exactly scream 'excitement' regardless of whether they make two pitstops or one.

Makes me piss when you've got the likes of Nick Fry and Chritian Horner moaning about the lack of action. You built the fucking cars! Does the 'double diffuser' issue create more of a monster in terms of dirty air than it would have if Brawn hadn't worked round the rule book?

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It will, to en extent as there's a relatively simple correlation between how hard you work the air over and around the car and how "dirty" it's going to be behind it. A double diffuser works the air harder, so it makes it dirtier.

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I'd like to see smaller wings, bigger tyres and ground effect aero being allowed again. Give them free reign to design 1 litre turbo engines as well, (as that's the way the petrol engine market is going).

Basically I wish it was 1986 again (only with more safety).

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Ground effect and safety don't mix!

There was a ruling to go for 1.5 litre turbo engines coming in in a few years, or has that been scrapped now?

I think so but it's gone a bit quiet. You don't think with today's car and run off safety levels that ground effect could be viable again?

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Ground effect and safety don't mix!

There was a ruling to go for 1.5 litre turbo engines coming in in a few years, or has that been scrapped now?

Better yet: they could twincharge small engines with an added supercharger as well ;) I'd love to see that happen.

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You don't think with today's car and run off safety levels that ground effect could be viable again?

The problem is that ground effect relies on the car being very close to the ground, as soon as it hits a bump and gets some air, all that downforce is gone and the corner you were able to take at 150mph before you can now only take at a fraction of that speed, so you go careering off into a barrier and die.

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The problem is that ground effect relies on the car being very close to the ground, as soon as it hits a bump and gets some air, all that downforce is gone and the corner you were able to take at 150mph before you can now only take at a fraction of that speed, so you go careering off into a barrier and die.

At least it'd be less boring.

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Ground effect and safety don't mix!

There was a ruling to go for 1.5 litre turbo engines coming in in a few years, or has that been scrapped now?

That was the world engine proposed by Mosley, which actually seems like a decent idea. Not sure what's happening with it but the engine rules will be redone for 2013, so I'd imagine we'll start to see more talk of it soon.

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It'll be really interesting to see whether the changeable 40m or the static 45m people come out on top at the end of the season. Maybe it'll be a good indicator of which teams really hit the ground running with their in-season development and which drivers are better at facilitating and taking advantage of new developments.

Or it could stay the same and be boring all season.

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