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Halkyon

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I really can't make my mind up about my last choice of driver for the fantasy league after watching those practice sessions. There seems to be very little between Force India, Renault, Sauber, Williams and even Toro Rosso.

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I was listening to the practice at work this morning and had to laugh when Holly Samos said to Jean Alesi "so what's it like for you ex-world champions to be all together here in Bahrain...oh wait, you never..." cue embarrassing mumbling... :)

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I was listening to the practice at work this morning and had to laugh when Holly Samos said to Jean Alesi "so what's it like for you ex-world champions to be all together here in Bahrain...oh wait, you never..." cue embarrassing mumbling... :)

I also saw this, and what made it even better was you knew it was coming. As soon as she mentioned the procession things I was all like "Oh no she didn't!".

She did!

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Gloomy Andy

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the interesting thing about both the Mclaren Wing & the Ferrari wheels is no other team can copy them this season.

The tub can't be changed once the season starts so no-one can add a hole, same with the wheels, they can't be changed. V Clever.

This is the season I'm going to get back into F1

After being an avid fan growing up and having attended several races my interest fell away.

But now I'm ready to sit up and pay attention (even if I wont be watching every race live)

Thanks for the explanation for the Mclaren vent but what are these Ferrari wheels?

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myoozikk

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Ferrari have "wheel covers" something all the other teams had a gentleman's agreement not to use this year...

but they have built these into the rim.

http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2010/0/724.html

For the 2010 season the FIA have outlawed the carbon fibre wheel fairings that became so popular in 2009. In a move that may be seen as going against the spirit of the regulations (but which has been approved by the FIA), Ferrari have instead incorporated an integral aero device (inset - yellow rings) into the design of their wheel rim. The device is detachable (main drawing), but to be legal it is made from the same material as the rim itself. As wheel rims have to be homologated and can't be changed during the season, Ferrari's rivals will be unable to copy this."

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myoozikk

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The BBC team seemed to be pretty sure that other teams will find enough space within the bodies of the cars to get their wing-stalling-snorkles in. Can they not develop the wheels at all?

unlikely as they can't change the tub during the season for safety reasons. Adding a snorkel would mean a new hole in the tub. That said i'm sure there are people 100000x smarter than me that will figure something out.

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unlikely as they can't change the tub during the season for safety reasons. Adding a snorkel would mean a new hole in the tub. That said i'm sure there are people 100000x smarter than me that will figure something out.

Yes they can. It's technically a B spec car & would probably have to go through crash tests again, but they could do it.

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mexos

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From Virgin's twitter:

VirginRacing Just spoke to Nick, the problem that sidelined Timo was a small gearbox problem. And no, I don't mean that the gearbox was too small ;-)

No it's just the fuel tank that's too small <_<

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Dom B

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Yes they can. It's technically a B spec car & would probably have to go through crash tests again, but they could do it.

Are you sure? Everything I've read suggests that this year (but not last year) the tub, crash structures and wheels are homologated at the start of the season and cannot be changed except for reasons of safety or reliability.

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marsh

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Wait till Sunday - by about lap 40 odd we'll know.

By which time if that car makes it that far into the race, they'll all be celebrating anyway. Meanwhile, everyone else will be avoiding chunks of VR until the car itself becomes a large imoveable obstacle.

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JPR

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The survival cell and front, rear and side impact structures are all homologated this year can only changed for safety or reliability reasons. So no B spec cars, they did suggest on the commentary this morning that if you already have the holes in place, there's access panels and such in the structures, then it's a pretty simple and cheap thing to do.

I should download a copy of the sporting and technical regs this year, instead of trying to find them on the FIA site every time, sad but I do enjoy looking things up in them. <_<

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Halkyon

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Everything I've read suggests that this year (but not last year) the tub, crash structures and wheels are homologated at the start of the season and cannot be changed except for reasons of safety or reliability.
either way they certainly can't just drill a hole in the tub, so updates would be a way off i'd think.

Would it require the changing or drilling of the 'tub' itself? Forgive my ignorance but could they not just feed the 'tube' around the 'tub', under the external carbon-fibre bodywork?

Either way, it'll be interesting to see how this develops. There are pics doing the rounds showing a Sauber with double snorkles (unconnected, intended for driver cooling I assume):

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... and a Merc with one on the side (for cooling again I guess):

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Christoph84

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Autosport Q & A with Jenson:

Q. We have been learning all about the little secrets on the car. Can you feel that little bit of straightline speed when you activate the F-duct?

JB: I don't know what you are talking about. Our straightline speed is very good.

Q. How's your knee?

JB: Which one? They are both fine thank you! Aerodynamically I'm reasonably happy with where the car is. I think we all want more downforce, but I'm happy.

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MrPogo

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I watched a bit of streaming and they are still moaning about the Mclaren thing. With it not being 'in the spirit of the rules' even though it clearly doesn't breach them.

That's what designing Formula 1 cars is all about! The most important member of every design team is the lawyer sniffing out the loopholes.

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Dom B

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I see Big Nose is talking about bringing back the 107% rule for next year.

That should reduce the number of cars on the grid by six.

That's what I thought but I did the calculations on 2nd practice today and 107% of the fastest time (Rosberg's 1:55.409) is 2:03.488, which would eliminate only Senna from that session. WTF! 107% is a surprisingly generous margin.

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