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How does Bernie do it?

F1 looked like entering lean times, the world economy was bust, sponsors were pulling out and manufacturers were reconsidering their involvement.

Now we have 2 top Brits at McLaren, Alonson in a Ferrari and The Red Baron driving for a Mercedes works team.

Throw in Vettel and does anyone else need to be on the grid for people to care?!

Silverstone will be sold out by the end of January. Sponsors must be queuing up to print their logos on the side of Schuey's car. Bernie's counting the ca$h

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It's pretty simple. The fastest cars and the best drivers in the world, you need to try pretty hard to fuck that up!

Schumi coming back is enough to replace my disappointment at Kimi leaving. I just hope the car gives him something to work with.

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How does Bernie do it?

F1 looked like entering lean times, the world economy was bust, sponsors were pulling out and manufacturers were reconsidering their involvement.

Now we have 2 top Brits at McLaren, Alonson in a Ferrari and The Red Baron driving for a Mercedes works team.

Throw in Vettel and does anyone else need to be on the grid for people to care?!

Silverstone will be sold out by the end of January. Sponsors must be queuing up to print their logos on the side of Schuey's car. Bernie's counting the ca$h

It is something amazing that's for sure.

I mean, 2010 on paper is quite a read.

Driver wise the list of names includes

Hamilton

Alonso

Schumacher

Senna(ish)

Vettel

Button

Kobayashi Maru

Ok, one of those isn't the real one but as I say on paper, it's something special to see!

Teams include

Ferrari

Williams

Mclaren

Lotus(ish)

Mercedes Silver Arrows

Renault(ish)

Sauber (ok perhaps not a name with an amazing legacy but it's still superb to have them back)

Even Montreal is back! Hell, bring back the orginal Hockenhiem, the Nordschleife and remove that damn first chicane at Monza and I'll start to wonder if this all just a wonderfull dream.

Who the hell needs Toyota??

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How does Bernie do it?

F1 looked like entering lean times, the world economy was bust, sponsors were pulling out and manufacturers were reconsidering their involvement.

Now we have 2 top Brits at McLaren, Alonson in a Ferrari and The Red Baron driving for a Mercedes works team.

Throw in Vettel and does anyone else need to be on the grid for people to care?!

Silverstone will be sold out by the end of January. Sponsors must be queuing up to print their logos on the side of Schuey's car. Bernie's counting the ca$h

Thank you for deciding for me. I shall stay home and have th best view in the house. I may even go karting in us honour, but Ecclestone will earn not a cent from me.

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Only one thing stopping 2010 from being the greatest season ever - the Tilke designed tracks. We've one more to see next season in Korea, even Schuey cannot cope with the crapness that is the Tilke hairpin. We need more Brazils, Italys and (old) Germanys.

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Only one thing stopping 2010 from being the greatest season ever - the Tilke designed tracks. We've one more to see next season in Korea, even Schuey cannot cope with the crapness that is the Tilke hairpin.

There's another new track in 2010?! Slow down! The "old" new ones need to get a bit of history before we have more!

I quite look forward to Malaysia now because it's where Hamilton puled the wool over Massa's eyes or where it can piss down at any second. Bahrain hasn't got many stories yet and neither has the god-awful Valencia. Shanghai is struggling, too.

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Exactly. They have no history because they are such borefests. Every F1 fan can name a couple of memorable moments in past Belgian, Brazilian GPs... thus it has history, because the race itself made it so. Now think back to China, Turkey, Bahrain, Singapore... all I can remember from that lot is the Crashgate scandal. And the nice pretty lights. The new(ish) tracks are designed to make overtaking difficult, not easier as old Tilke says.

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Exactly. They have no history because they are such borefests. Every F1 fan can name a couple of memorable moments in past Belgian, Brazilian GPs... thus it has history, because the race itself made it so. Now think back to China, Turkey, Bahrain, Singapore... all I can remember from that lot is the Crashgate scandal. And the nice pretty lights. The new(ish) tracks are designed to make overtaking difficult, not easier as old Tilke says.

More like they're designed for other racing series. The tracks should allow more overtaking, but the way the cars are designed just make it worse.

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More like they're designed for other racing series. The tracks should allow more overtaking, but the way the cars are designed just make it worse.

The cars are so good now. I watched a few of those old GPs the BBC showed and maybe car setups were more of a compromise than they are now. In some races, the cars looked awesome on some parts of a track and ropey on others.

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Just to play devil's advocate, I have another theory where it's not Tilke's fault.

The Abu Dhabi layout is excellent, the last sector allows cars to come through very close to each other, then the complex start means that any defensive driving or mistakes compromise your exit speed onto the long back straight, giving the following car a big chance to use your slipstream and get under you into the braking zone. Go defensive here and this time you'll compromise your exit onto the second long back straight, giving them another opportunity.

So why did Brazil mean more passing? Qualifying was crazy, dramatically changing weather conditions meant that teams all set up their cars differently, some got it right and some big teams got it wrong, completely re-arranging the grid. Then on Sunday it was dry so not only did you have drivers in positions they wouldn't usually be in, but those at the front had got there with a setup optimised for wet conditions, so the ones at the back had an added advantage.

So Abu Dhabi's problem is its predictable conditions, not its layout. You could apply the same argument to Bahrain. Given that, they both actually produced some pretty decent racing.

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