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McCoy

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They really do need to get rid of old Legard as the main commentator. Maybe he was fine for Radio 5, but he is nothing short of infuriating when commentating on TV. I really hate it how he gets so fucking wound up about nothing, or things that may happen ("BUT WHAT IF IT RAINS!!!!. WHAT IF SOMEONE CRASHES INTO BUTTON!!!!!") Yeah, Murray Walker would get excited, but at least he would only get excited when things happens. Legard just flies off the handle, and he also comes out with some real clangers (I'm sure I heard him say that it was 40 years since the title was handed from one Englishman to another Englishman- erm, I didn't know that Jackie Stewart was English....)

It's those sorts of clangers that really piss me off, as well as his general shoutyness!!!

Agreed. With Legard it's like F1 commentating for dummies. Simply stating what's on the screen, or his really bloody irritating catchphrases that he uses every minute or so. I swear if I hear how something might happen may affect 'Championship leader Jenson Button' one more time I will throw something at the TV, it's he thinks forgotten in the last five minutes that Button is leading the championship. But the worst thing is that when you actually listen to him he gives off the immense impression of not knowing what he is talking about. He has some nifty phrases and the confidence to suggest he's been following F1 for years but he just doesn't seem to know anything apart from what is on the screen. Excitable commentary is one thing, but Legard is just wrong for the job and has no chemistry with Brundle.

F1 is actually a sport where all the information is on the screen available for the viewer anyway so you need people like Brundle who came tell us what the significance of a flash fire in the pit lane is to the cars involved or what is happening to the tire. Coulthard and Brundle would be a good listen I reckon.

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Bruciebabie

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Next year's odds: http://www.skybet.com/skybet?action=GoEvEv&id=11833672

2010 Drivers Championship (18:00)

Drivers Championship

Refresh odds Add to Basket Bet now

* Each Way terms: 1/5 of odds for 1st 3 places

Note: Bets relate to 2010 F1 World Championship. All in, run or not.

Hamilton, L 5/2 Rosberg, N 14/1 Kovalainen, H 125/1

Alonso, F 7/2 Barrichello, R 16/1 Buemi, S 250/1

Raikkonen, K 11/2 Kubica, R 20/1 Fisichella, G 250/1

Vettel, S 6/1 Hulkenburg, N 50/1 Sutil, A 250/1

Massa, F 7/1 Heidfeld, N 80/1 Nakajima, K 500/1

Button, J 9/1 Trulli, J 100/1 Piquet, N 1000/1

Webber, M 11/1 Glock, T 100/1

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You've got to hand it to Rubens, he's a bloody nice man.

Barrichello lends Button his plane

By Jonathan Noble Sunday, October 18th 2009, 21:48 GMT

Newly crowned world champion Jenson Button will be allowed to celebrate his title with his team, friends and family in Brazil on Sunday night - after Brawn GP team-mate Rubens Barrichello generously laid on his private jet to take the Briton back home on Monday morning.

Button had originally been scheduled to fly to London on the Sunday night British Airways flight out of Sao Paulo, but that plan was thrown into doubt with the scheduled aircraft suffering technical problems.

And although there remains the chance that the flight will still be able to leave, Button has been allowed to stay in Brazil on Sunday night thanks to the generosity of his team-mate.

Even though Barrichello suffered the disappointment of seeing his own title ambitions end with an eighth place in the race, he told Button that he would fly him and his entourage out of Brazil in his own private jet on Monday morning – ready for the new world champion's first public appearances in the UK from Tuesday.

Button is due to appear at the Bluewater Shopping Centre in Kent on Tuesday afternoon for a sponsorship event on behalf of Virgin Media.

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Bruciebabie

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Webber has taken over from Hamilton as the main chopper of other drivers on the circuit.

He took Kimi out of a certain podium with his Brazil chop.

Then Kimi pits for a new nose and gets covered in petrol and set on fire.

Temporary youtube till Bernievision takes it down:

Kimi: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79594

"At the pitstop, I ended up with some drops of petrol in my eye, from the fuel line stuck on Kovalainen's car and then I was engulfed in flames and blinded: I was going to stop, but luckily the flames soon went out.

"Even now, my eyes are still burning, but I'm alright."

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Is the F1 forum on the iplayer? searched but didn't find it. I know its on the red button but mine is broken :angry:

Missed the race yesterday but fell asleep before anything could be spoiled. Absolutely awesome race. Poor Rubens, he just has no luck. Next year is looking very good, if Red Bull & Brawn both maintain decent cars Ferrari & Mclaren should improve and make the battle at the front immense. Kobayashi was great for his first race, really hope he gets a seat and Toyota stay on.

Not too sure about the track layout at Abu Dhabi but the pit lane exit could create some carnage.

Is there a way for F1 to get rid of tracks for being too boring? Or at least change when certain races happen so that we have a few more with high chances of rain. If Silverstone's car parks weren't muddy fields it would be awesome to have it in April again.

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The pit lane fire was a classic, you just sat there watching as the fuel gushed out of the hose as kimi followed.......3...2...1 WHOMPF!

Petrol is so amazingly flammable.

Oh, and Hamilton for the title next year. Absolutely no doubt in my mind whatsoever.

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Bruciebabie

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Oh, and Hamilton for the title next year. Absolutely no doubt in my mind whatsoever.

Depends a lot on the cars the constructors produce.

Red Bull, Brawn, Williams, Ferrari, McLaren and Renault will all have drivers capable of winning the WDC. Maybe Toyota too.

So it depends what they are given to drive.

This year the Red Bull was the best car by miles, fastest at nearly every race, another Newey gem. So good that even an average journeyman like Webber can win in it twice.

However they didn't win either championship because Brawn had far better drivers.

But genuine superstars like Hamilton, Kimi and Alonso will not finish in the top three this year because their cars were not good enough.

Also Hamilton is hard on his tyres and the cars will be a lot heavier next season which will make matters worse. I am sure he will learn and adapt. But some drivers, like Button and Kimi, are already far lighter on their tyres.

Also engines. Cosworth have free reign whilst all the other engines have frozen designs. What if Cosworth produce a more powerful engine? Advantage Williams.

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yes it was another Newey gem, but like all his gems it was fragile. It was doing something to those Renault engines which made them less reliable than the brawns, i thinks theat's where redbull ost the champoinship, with accidents and reliblity issues. not becuas eth drivers weren't fast enough.

Next year, as far as i know, they will stuill have to race 2 different tire compound in the race, so there will have to be at least 1 pit stop for each car. Given this, i don't think Hamilton will suffer too much with his tires,. If he can build a good lead each race, he could 3 stop.

And as for Cosworth. After Max had to back down and abandon the 40 million Euro spending cap, i believe all the tech breaks the new teams were going to get for racing to a spending cap were removed. It was the main thing that annoyed Ferrari, them not being able to build a car to the same tech regs and as the new boys.

So i'm pretty sure the Cosworth is going to be underpowered and fragile, but still limited on restricters and rev limit in the same way as the other engines. It's going to be crap unit, hence Williams waiting to see what Renault would charge them before going to Cosworth. With Barrichello on board they would want the Reanult and the team would be more attractive to Reanult too.

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yes it was another Newey gem, but like all his gems it was fragile. It was doing something to those Renault engines which made them less reliable than the brawns, i thinks theat's where redbull ost the champoinship, with accidents and reliblity issues. not becuas eth drivers weren't fast enough.

Next year, as far as i know, they will stuill have to race 2 different tire compound in the race, so there will have to be at least 1 pit stop for each car. Given this, i don't think Hamilton will suffer too much with his tires,. If he can build a good lead each race, he could 3 stop.

And as for Cosworth. After Max had to back down and abandon the 40 million Euro spending cap, i believe all the tech breaks the new teams were going to get for racing to a spending cap were removed. It was the main thing that annoyed Ferrari, them not being able to build a car to the same tech regs and as the new boys.

So i'm pretty sure the Cosworth is going to be underpowered and fragile, but still limited on restricters and rev limit in the same way as the other engines. It's going to be crap unit, hence Williams waiting to see what Renault would charge them before going to Cosworth. With Barrichello on board they would want the Reanult and the team would be more attractive to Reanult too.

Newey did the 91 williams that would frequently spaz out without any warning? Pretty much cost Mansell the title that year.

He is the best for explaining things from a driver's point of view, but the Brundle's dry humour and grid walking still rule.

Speaking of which, who was that irritating bitch from sky that he kept pissing off at the weekend?

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I'm wondering how next year is going to shake up with the no refuel setup. Do the teams have much power over how the consumption works? with only a few engines being used throughout the pit I suppose generally there's going to be a case of the one that has the best consumption (meaning for a lighter and faster car) will produce the winners. I presume engines can't be changed and upgraded through the season so teams are stuck with what they have. Tire use being another high priority, aiding the fuel consumption and number of pitstops needed, drivers and cars that are light on their tires should be able to run lighter loads and run better paces.

I don't know if it really changes much overall, but there's simply not going the chance of a light fuelled car starting mid grid and piling through the positions, everyone's going to start off sluggish and heavy.

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Speaking of which, who was that irritating bitch from sky that he kept pissing off at the weekend?

Earlier on in the year she'd been queueing up for an interview with someone, and Brundle just charged straight in in front of her :wub:

Tanya isn't it?

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So i'm pretty sure the Cosworth is going to be underpowered and fragile, but still limited on restricters and rev limit in the same way as the other engines. It's going to be crap unit, hence Williams waiting to see what Renault would charge them before going to Cosworth. With Barrichello on board they would want the Reanult and the team would be more attractive to Reanult too.

Seems Williams have switched to Cosworth looks a bit of a gamble but I wonder if it has anything to do with KERS. They've said they may use it next season despite the self imposed FOTA ban and I'd imagine Renault wouldn't be too happy with that, they may cause Williams some problems or just not agree to supply them if they do, but I doubt Cosworth will, probably be happy it if it helps them get a win.

I'm wondering how next year is going to shake up with the no refuel setup. Do the teams have much power over how the consumption works? with only a few engines being used throughout the pit I suppose generally there's going to be a case of the one that has the best consumption (meaning for a lighter and faster car) will produce the winners. I presume engines can't be changed and upgraded through the season so teams are stuck with what they have.

Apparently the Cosworth engine is quite a thirsty unit, think it was speculated you'd need something like 10 extra laps of fuel which would be a big penalty. But, there does seem to have been a lot of wild speculation about the engine and very little facts so not sure how credible that is, either way it has the potential to make a difference next season. Wouldn't have thought they'll be able to do anything about it, maybe it will be brought up though if we do have an engine re-equalisation.

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I have been trying to get some Cosworth facts but none are forthcoming.

Their own PR says that the lack of freeze on their engine will make it competetive.

That it is a very significant evolution of their previous F1 motor.

That they have run race simulations and it would have won when other units have won.

And that is about it.

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I may be looking at this a little blindly, but with fuel consumption potentially being a big part of the engine could we see loads of teams trying to jump on the best performing engine come 2011? There's no tire argument anymore, everyone is on Bridgestones. I wonder if we're slowly looking down a future road of cars that are very, very similar. Lack of testing, budget caps, strict rules, there's getting less in the world of rule bending now. Brawn managed it with their double diffuser this year, which everyone jumped on the moment they could, I can't really think of another thing that shook up the pack so much this year, and we even had KERS in the mix; a jump that only a few thought worthwhile (but not the winning teams)

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Won't any advantage that the Cossies have be nullified by the FIA engine equalisation for next year? In terms of power any way.

Red Bull are also considering moving to Cosworth precisely because they think it will have an advantage.

So Campos, Lotus, Manor and US, all the new teams, are Cosworth.

Williams and now possibly Red Bull of the established teams also.

Half the grid.

Williams are very strongly engineering based, to them the driver is just another component, they would not have chosen Cosworth without good reasons.

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