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I originally had thought that their ban came into affect from 2011- which would give them a couple of years to find a buyer. But it looks like it is a similar "fine' to McLaren's earlier in the year. Again- it just shows that it's an old boy network, as long as you play by the rules- they'll look after each other.... except Briatore hasn't been playing by those rules!

Briatore being banned, indefinitely, is a good thing- although it has come across as a bit of a witch hunt. Briatore, as I've said before, has been making too many enemies in F1 and they've been waiting for him to make a mistake. At the end of the day, it's Briatore's arrogance that has got him here (and maybe extra external pressure from Renault and the sponsors). They should have kept Piquet for the rest of the year, tried to keep him shush and parted ways with a golden handshake. Or Briatore, if he had been a lot smarter, would have got him a drive in CART (or whatever it's called these days)- if not just as the Renault team principle, but at least as his fucking manager!!!!

No wonder Piquet was so pissed off, I mean he's been fired by his team- his manager has done nothing to get him another job- so he's basically unemployed, with no future in racing, at the age of 24. He obviously went the "extra mile" as Alonso's team mate by crashing his car, on Briatore's orders, and yet is still fired for it. Is it any wonder he's pissed off and out to get something???

As I said in a previous post, maybe he'll go back to running a Benneton clothing franchise... ;-)

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Such a greasy haired wankwad. Knows fuck all about cars and drivers, but I'll grant him that he's brought a team together that had previously won the square route of bugger all. It is such an old boys network, I'd like to see what happens with GP2 and GP3 that flav was involved with.

Bring on the new teams and new faces I say, even if they were all at the request of the spankmeister himself.

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Renault's punishment was the massive damage done to their reputation by this entire ordeal. They've lost their boss and main tech guy, leaving them in a pretty iffy situation for next year. They'll lose loads of sponsorship over companies that want nothing to do with them too. This punishment was fine, it was McLaren's punishment that was way off the scale, and you can't keep escalating. Do people really want to see Renault banned when they employ 700+ people and have invested insane amount of money in F1 despite the recession? Renault do so much for motorsport, like Formula Renault and supplying engines to teams and other formulae like GP2; it would be really bad news for the industry if they got banned from F1.

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Such a greasy haired wankwad. Knows fuck all about cars and drivers, but I'll grant him that he's brought a team together that had previously won the square route of bugger all. It is such an old boys network, I'd like to see what happens with GP2 and GP3 that flav was involved with.

Bring on the new teams and new faces I say, even if they were all at the request of the spankmeister himself.

But Benneton had done alright, before Renault had bought them!!! ;-)

You're right, before Benneton, Toleman were a shower of shite (looking back at the stats, it's amazing the amount of DNQs- those were the days!!) and Briatore's vision was around the commercial aspect of F1, so you could say he played a big part in the rise of F1- as a commercial, and global entity- over the past few years. But that commercial aspect was a part of his downfall- if there wasn't so much pressure, this could have been kept quiet.

He will probably turn up somewhere else (I don't know if GP2/3 has any involvement with the FIA?). It wouldn't surprise me if he got nvolved with Champ Car in the US- after doing some reading on it, it's in a really sorry state of affairs, by the sound of things. If he could turn it around, make it a resounding success he could be in a position to have a real competitor to F1. He was always trying to get the alternative F1 group going, and this could be a reason for him to start doing it. It would take a number of years, but it's possible.

Maybe the biggest mistake the FIA have done is pushing Briatore out of the "old boys club". He's too arrogant to let it go and there's nothing worse than a woman scorned......

And as Smoothy put it, again- the posterboy of F1 - Fernando Alonso has managed to escape any form of punishment. What on earth does he have to do to get punished? I'm looking forward to his next race in the Renault with front mounted machine guns. And limpet mines.

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What did Alonso do?

Well there was that Mclaren Ferrarigate thing, which Alonso apparently wasn't involved and now this, which he apparently wasn't involved, even though he benefitted both times. Yeah of course I'm just stirring it but he must be the unluckiest driver at the moment... or the luckiest :(

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What did Alonso do?

He apparently didn't question the reason behind the crazy three-stop fuel strategy when he was 15th on the grid in Singapore. A DOUBLE WORLD CHAMPION didn't do the thing that every single other driver in the field, or even bloke down the pub, would have done. He didn't say anything about it, like "How the fuck is this going to get me anywhere? One-stop me, you retards."

It can't be a lie or anything. Oh no.

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The FIA's World Motor Sport Council has announced a 19-race calendar for the 2010 season, confirming the return of Canada.

The governing body also confirmed South Korea will make its debut in Formula 1 next year with an October date.

Next year's championship will begin in Bahrain, as reported earlier this year by AUTOSPORT, with Australia moving to second place on the calendar.

Canada, absent from this year's calendar, will return on a June date subject to the completion of contract talks with FOM.

Brazil will close the season on 14 November.

14/3 Bahrain

28/3 Australia

04/4 Malaysia

18/4 China

09/5 Spain

23/5 Monaco

30/5 Turkey

13/6 Canada*

27/6 Europe (Valencia)

11/7 Great Britain

25/7 Germany

01/8 Hungary

29/8 Belgium

12/9 Italy

26/9 Singapore

03/10 Japan

17/10 Korea

31/10 Abu Dhabi

14/11 Brazil

* Subject to the completion of contract negotiations with Formula One Management. If these are not completed then the Turkish Grand Prix will be moved to 6 June.

Note: The race in Australia will start at 1700 local time, in Malaysia at 1600 local time, in Singapore at 2000 local time, and in Abu Dhabi at 1700 local time.

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1. Is there evidence that makes Briatore more culpable than Symonds? Life ban vs 5 years seems completely disproportionate when, reading all that leaked documentation (if correct) I got the impression that the scheme was Symonds' brainchild and Flavio went along with it.

2. Will this ban actually be effective or will Briatore be able to continue to operate at arm's length through a network of Virgin Island companies/names of partners/offspring?

3. Is he no longer a 'fit and propper person' in the FA rulebook?

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1. Is there evidence that makes Briatore more culpable than Symonds? Life ban vs 5 years seems completely disproportionate when, reading all that leaked documentation (if correct) I got the impression that the scheme was Symonds' brainchild and Flavio went along with it.

The difference is that Symonds admitted his guilt, whereas Flav has admitted nothing. Therefore it's similar to what happens in court where someone pleads guilty as opposed to not guilty - they tend to get a reduced sentence for belatedly being honest and making the job of the court easier.

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The FIA's World Motor Sport Council has announced a 19-race calendar for the 2010 season, confirming the return of Canada.

The governing body also confirmed South Korea will make its debut in Formula 1 next year with an October date.

Next year's championship will begin in Bahrain, as reported earlier this year by AUTOSPORT, with Australia moving to second place on the calendar.

Canada, absent from this year's calendar, will return on a June date subject to the completion of contract talks with FOM.

Brazil will close the season on 14 November.

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I love it how the FIA is trying to promote "cost cutting" and then adds two frigging races to the schedule- with one of them being a transatlantic trip in the middle of the European part of the season. Bahrain at the start? Why not have it at least near to the Abu Dhabi GP- but of course it will be to "maximise sponsor awareness" by splitting them up. And Bahrain isn't exactly a great showpiece for F1 racing- they should have stuck to Australia.

As much as I like the fact there are more races added to the calendar, I can't help but get a sinking feeling when places like South Korea get added onto the list. It will be another poorly attended (after the inaugural race), poorly designed track that is on at a really annoying time of the day (South Korea is, what 8-9 hours ahead, meaning it's going to be on in the middle of the night).

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They should do what they do with some of the moto gp races and have them on in the late evening. Brazil has always been a favourite for me as the day is all but over and seeing that in the gloom of winter over here is something to be cheerful of. And Korea? wtf?

I'd have thought Russia would have pushed ahead before a country like Korea.

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They should do what they do with some of the moto gp races and have them on in the late evening. Brazil has always been a favourite for me as the day is all but over and seeing that in the gloom of winter over here is something to be cheerful of. And Korea? wtf?

I'd have thought Russia would have pushed ahead before a country like Korea.

I guess Korea were quicker in lining the pockets of Bernie, than Russia...

Looking at the attendance figures, I think the Chinese and Turkish GPs will probably be gone for 2010, depending on contracts. I know the Chinese have been trying to get out of it for a while, and even went as far as bussing spectators, for free, in order to fill the numbers up. Turkey had 36,000 attendees this year (Silverstone had over 120,000, for comparison) with the organisers hiding up various parts of the stands to hide the fact that there were so many empty seats.

I'd imagine Russia and India will be getting lined up to replace those dates on the calendar.

But after that, where else can F1 realistically go to? What new territories can it open up? It could go back to the USA (which it might, if USA F1 are any good), I suppose there are more South American countries or maybe a return to South Africa but it's just a bit depressing to see great tracks, with fantastic attendances (e.g. Silverstone) getting dropped for shite like Korea (although, I might be proved wrong- it might be a great track, but you know what I mean!)

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