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You know Ferrari are probably wondering if they really should get rid of Kimi. Their car is about 4th or 5th fastest (McLaren, Brawn and RB are all faster with Renault being about the same or slightly slower) yet for the 2nd race in a row he's put it on the podium.

Alonso and Kimi next year maybe? :(

edit: I see Grosjean's fastest lap was faster than Alonso's. Looks like a great driver even though some people want to punch him in the chops. :(

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Put £3 on Rubens at 7-1. Shame it wasn't £30. Stupid thing to say really, shame it wasn't £30'000.

I put £15 on at 7-1 too! :(

At Hungary I put £50 on Hamilton to win at 10-1. Cha ching!

I think ladbrokes will close my account soon, I'm nearly a grand up so far this year and I'll win another grand if vettel or webber wins the title and £500 if Button wins it. I put £20 on webber when he was 50/1!

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Anyone managed to find the F1 forum on the bbc site? I want to see the EJ swearing bit.

Also, was I imagining it or were we treated to full frontal nudity at midday on BBC1? Just before the race started where they showed those people pissing about in that rooftop pool I'm sure there was a brunette beauty standing stark naked on the other side.

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Anyone managed to find the F1 forum on the bbc site? I want to see the EJ swearing bit.

Also, was I imagining it or were we treated to full frontal nudity at midday on BBC1? Just before the race started where they showed those people pissing about in that rooftop pool I'm sure there was a brunette beauty standing stark naked on the other side.

I think it was a gold cossie on a bronzed bod.

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Looks like McLaren are going to get thrown out of F1 for another lying incident :(, what with Whitmarsh claiming to the BBC "that fuck up with the tyres didn't cost us the race, honest!". It cost them seven seconds by my count, which happened to match how much longer the pit stop was compared to Barricellos.

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Hurrah for the old boy.

There we go. Barrichello finally shuts up whinging and comes home first. From Qualification he looked to have the car under him to do it, and he delivers in some style. Having the pace to chase down the fast starting Hamilton and passing the McLaren when it got stuck in the pits waiting for tires.

After the race Witmarch claimed they were too slow and Barrichello was always going to win, if the tires had been there for Lewis it wouldn’t have made a difference. They were always going to loose. I think he’s right, Barrichello looked faster than Hamilton and they couldn’t pull out enough of a lead to make the difference. However, if the stop had been slick then Lewis would have been closer and maybe Barrichello would have made a mistake.

But , at the end of the day, all the major passes happened in the pit. The race, as a race, was pretty much over after the first lap. No one could pass unless the car in front (usually Badoer in the Ferrari) got out of the way. The circuit which should be ace, is too wide and too dusty. I think there were more people on the beach then watching the race.

Dullsvile.

So Barrichello wins, well done to him. He did a good job and chased down Hamilton for a well deserved win, He leapfrog Webber in the race for the chased for the cup for the thing behind Button. Can he go on put a run together as Button looks to have lost his nerve a bit ?

Hamilton, takes 2nd after a great pole, low on fuel as he was. He’d lost a lot of running after tagging the wall at the start of practice on Friday. So to come back take pole and almost take the win is pretty good I think. It again shows that McLaren have turned the corner and now have a car the if not the fastest, is defiantly fast enough to win. It was fast in Germany too before Webber tagged it. SO Spa next weekend might be another happy hunting ground.

3rd for Raikkonen again shows that the Ferrari too has a good car when they find the sweet spot. Like McLaren they’re also looking to salvage pride this season, but they continue to take points away from the Brawns and Redbulls. Kimi didn’t look like he was going to race anytime, he just got there with a long middle stint and being just fast enough. Will he be staying now that Massa is sitting at home for the rest of the season and maybe beyond.

4th Kovalainen, slower than Hamilton again, but did the best he could with a car that didn’t have much break disc left. He still needs to put a race weekend together and make some luck for himself. He’s not consistent enough, and may well still lose his ride if Rosberg can be bought out of his.

5th Rosberg again brings the car home in a points paying position. Doing a good solid job with the tools to hand, just how much longer can Frank keep him ?

6th Alonso, tried hard but never looked like trouble ling the top 5 really. Spent a lot of the race getting out the way of any Red cars.

7th Button, oooh it’s all starting to go wrong isn’t it. Okay so Vettel and Webber are out of the points. But his team mate is 35 seconds up the road and doing his stupid shuffles dance thing on the top step, Buttons rightful place. Maybe the pressure has got to him, maybe he’s trying too hard, or not hard enough. Whatever the problem, Brawn look to have sorted the car issue out to a large extent. Now Button needs to get his act together and go and do his thing. A rubbish start left him behind Webber for most of the race, and only a bit of traffic on Webbers in lap saves Button from a thrashing.

8th Kubica. I have no idea how this has happened. I guess the Toyotas being rubbish means there are no other cars to be ahead of the BMW. Everyone else left is either too old (Badoer), too new (Grojean and Alguersuari) or blew up. So Kubica gets a point in a season to forget.

9th Webber. Well that didn’t go to plan did it ......

10th Sutil turn to be the best Force India.

Quite randomly, Glock gets the fastest lap. No I have no idea how he did that either. Lap 55, why didn’t he do that all race and maybe get some points. I don’t know quite how, but I’m going to blame Trulli for no other reason than I dislike him.

This was supposed to be a Brawn circuit, and it was. Not the Brawn we were expecting, but Brawn did the best of the championship contenders. Once again it’s the McLaren’s and Ferraris who have taken points away from the leaders and this is going to be the shape of the rest of the season. McLaren did the best they could, but didn't have the speed when is mattered ... or the tires. But it was mostly speed they needed. Still if you'd told Hamilton that he could have a first and second in the second half of the season, i think he'd have laughed at you after Australia. The Woking boys have turned it around and have done a good job there.

Spa next, who's going to be fasest there ?

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How long was Hamilton's pit? If it was around 15 seconds then yes, the pit incident cost him the win.

I think it was 13.xx compared to 6.xx for Barricello, with the tyres taking an extra 7 seconds after they'd finished everything else.

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I still think it's possible that McLaren were using Kovi to slow Barrichello down. He dropped back and dropped back until Rubens was in dirty air, then picked up his pace to stay there. If so that cost him positions.

I'm pretty sure Glock did a 3 stopper, meaning he had fresh tyres right at the end of the race when the track was nicely bedded in, hence the fastest lap. Good work though!

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Looks like McLaren are going to get thrown out of F1 for another lying incident ;), what with Whitmarsh claiming to the BBC "that fuck up with the tyres didn't cost us the race, honest!". It cost them seven seconds by my count, which happened to match how much longer the pit stop was compared to Barricellos.

I counted it as 2 seconds, which is quite a significant difference. I'll have to go watch it again. I was counting from the moment the fuel rig was pulled out, not from the time they should have started putting the tyres on the car. There must be a replay online somewhere.

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I counted it as 2 seconds, which is quite a significant difference. I'll have to go watch it again. I was counting from the moment the fuel rig was pulled out, not from the time they should have started putting the tyres on the car. There must be a replay online somewhere.

I was going by the replay shown at the end (while they were talking to Whitmarsh), so from that camera angle the chap I took to be the fuel guy could have been someone else.

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Was it me or is the track shit?

It's so the public can get more involved. Go down to your local Industrial Estate on a Sunday and you can pretend to be an F1 driver in Valencia.

The place is completely soulless - it's the worst track of the year.

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so there's a few cranes. and yeah, the paddock thing you couldn't even notice.

still SO much more character than loads of the other courses. the luxury yachts in the port, the city of arts and sciences right round one of the corners

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when they cut back behind the behind the people watching the race from that roof-top swimming pool, i couldn't believe how awesome that was.

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