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Beychae

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And other than you lot disliking the Senna comments, Allen had a good race, asked good questions to Gascoigne and even corrected Brundle a few times (when he wasn't following, most odd).

I think he is trying to impress the BBC bosses to keep his job.

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Froettmaning

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Allen had a good race...and even corrected Brundle a few times (when he wasn't following, most odd).

Brundle did seem a bit confused at times, for instance apparently forgetting that Hamilton had been brimmed at his early and unscheduled pit-stop.

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JPR

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Good race, as much as I'm not a fan of him, Hamilton did have a great race and deserved the win. Great race by Massa, I imagine there wasn't anyone that saw the rain and didn't expect him to put it in the barrier on the first lap, but he got it to the end, may have been able to get second if Ferrari weren't so cautious with the strategy. Kimi was useless, another race where he just didn't turn up, you could almost start to believe the rumours that Alonso is signed for 2010. Just feel so sorry for Sutil and Force India, would have been an amazing result for them.

Allen was at his infuriating best the sooner he's gone the better, same for ITV, Hamilton's won this one we'll actually bother to extend it this week.

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thesnwmn

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Also, bit of a side note, related to commentators getting it wrong...

I've just discovered the live timings available at the official F1 site. If you've not seen it before they provide a window showing every sector time, pit stop and fastest lap, as well as weather and speed trap information. Having had it open during the GP just now it was fanastic getting info pretty much as the commentators do, and seeing the time it takes them to pikc up on some things. But most useful was at the switch form itermediate tyres to dry tyres you could see the lap times tumbling, watching Kovalienen's lap times fall which made it clear that Hamilton would go to drys.

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sir stiff_one

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All of you seem to have broken hearing or broken comprehension. He wasn't comparing him to Senna, he was saying he was trying to emulate him. He actually used the word emulate and that is 100% accurate. Senna is Hamilton's hero, his helmet's modelled on his and all he talked about last season was following in Senna's shoes, especially in the preamble to the Brazilian Grand Prix. Monte Carlo was Senna's most famous track so it's hardly surprising the connection is going to be mentioned and it certainly wasn't brought up inappropriately. Mind you, today was Senna-esque, his push was utterly marvellous and it was a crushing performance.

Raikkonen's a knob and proved that, bizarrely for someone from Scandinavia, he has no car control in anything less than near optimum positions. Sutil was robbed by his cack-handed car control, which was disgusting. Vettel, Kubica and Webber all showed how talented they are and it was the best race I've seen in a long time.

And other than you lot disliking the Senna comments, Allen had a good race, asked good questions to Gascoigne and even corrected Brundle a few times (when he wasn't following, most odd).

"Disgusting", pretty strong for what was just a mistake that fucking loads of drivers make, especially in the conditions. You don't need to mention Senna so much, who gives a fucking shit if he's trying to emulate him, he's also trying to be Lewis Hamilton. I'm sure most of the footie players and F1 drivers and all sportsmen have been inspired by classic players, but other people don't fucking mention it all the time. It really took the edge off the coverage, plus the breaks, I can't wait for a shake up in the coverage. Even if the BBC is shit, it'll be a different kind of shit. Senna was brought up at least 42 times today and became more and more cringey. If fellow countryman Massa would have won they wouldn't have mentioned Senna SENNA SENNA nearly 1/100th as much.

Kimi's not from Scandinavia by the way.

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JPR

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Also, bit of a side note, related to commentators getting it wrong...

I've just discovered the live timings available at the official F1 site. If you've not seen it before they provide a window showing every sector time, pit stop and fastest lap, as well as weather and speed trap information. Having had it open during the GP just now it was fanastic getting info pretty much as the commentators do, and seeing the time it takes them to pikc up on some things. But most useful was at the switch form itermediate tyres to dry tyres you could see the lap times tumbling, watching Kovalienen's lap times fall which made it clear that Hamilton would go to drys.

The live timing is fantastic, gives you so much more information than on the TV. Can see things happening that the commentators never seem to talk about and it's nice to be able to see all the gaps which seem to go missing at times on the TV.

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raphski

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Yeah, it's horrible. What's worse is that this race really offered them their best chance for a result like that. To be so close and have it snatched away...

Allen was really fawning over Hamilton today. Particularly when it got clear he was going to win with about 26 laps to go. Just that kind of stuff alone could be enough for the BBC to never want to go near him. Let alone all the other crap.

Good to see Couthlard still maintaining an accident was not his fault too. I'm pretty sure if you held up a picture of the back of a car, he'd run into it.

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SeanR

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being allowed to unlap yourself (into race order obv.) under a yellow sucks though. All that hard work to build up a 38 second lead undone in seconds with the safety car bunchup. Meaning you can't take your foot off the gas and save the engine (or was this the last of a two races per block thing?) and so on and so forth. Meaning you COULD conceivable be forced into a mistake by someone who was half a lap away just a minute ago.

It's all about the TV though, innit

2 hrs (or all the laps), maximum... :)

PS. Sutil was DELIBERATELY taken out. I mean, it's easier to replace a nosecone that a diffuser, obviosuly. :D

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Paradigm

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"Disgusting", pretty strong for what was just a mistake that fucking loads of drivers make, especially in the conditions.

It was a mainly dry line by the time he went into the back of him, the reason he crashed was because he didn't have temperature in the tyres. He was being reckless because he wanted to pass him despite not having the speed to, so he overcooked it. If there was ever going to be contact the odds are that the guy in front is going to come off worse because of the way the front nosecone is designed, so I don't really think 'disgusting' is too strong. It was a 'mistake' that a rookie with red mist would have made, not something befitting the world champion. Taking such liberties with a guy in front of you who got there by driving better than you is unprofessional and unsporting.

You don't need to mention Senna so much, who gives a fucking shit if he's trying to emulate him, he's also trying to be Lewis Hamilton. I'm sure most of the footie players and F1 drivers and all sportsmen have been inspired by classic players, but other people don't fucking mention it all the time.

And if nobody talked about the drivers' personalities you'd be moaning that F1 is boring and that it doesn't have the character of x number of years ago. Senna worship is part of who Hamilton is, knowing this is a part of understanding the emotions the guy is going through as he wins the race, I presume you saw how excited he was. It wasn't an ordinary win at all. It's a significant and legitimate point, whether you find it cringe-worthy or not.

Kimi's not from Scandinavia by the way.

Finland is often included in Scandinavia, but would you be more content if I used the word 'Nordic' instead? Trying to pick holes in the etymology of words doesn't make points any less valid.

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sir stiff_one

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Calm down, Rambo. Talking shit in an authoritative tone doesn't make it any more valid.

Finland is often included in Scandinavia, but would you be more content if I used the word 'Nordic' instead? Trying to pick holes in the etymology of words doesn't make points any less valid.

Use whatever words you want, I was just pointing out a mistake.

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Has Paradigm been privy to some other completely different set of reasons for Kimi killing Sutil? Because everything you're saying is in stark contrast to what the experts have said. Or is he just mental?

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sir stiff_one

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He fucked up like loads of drivers did that day, in the mixed conditions at Monaco. Not even attempting an overtake, let alone an Alonso-esque ill-advised, arrogant fat fucking nose shunt. I can't imagine why he'd be eager to overtake, you know, championship points on the line, a usual back marker in front etc.

He is DISGUSTING though. Disgusting.

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Did they go around in enough circles?

I've seen Monaco GP's before. They are only good in the rain. I hear sometimes they end up in the swimming pool. Sounds fun.

My experience of this GP is that there is not enough high speed crashes.

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