wev Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wev Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Thank you BBC for your input on the "pay driver" debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layten Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Bloody hell, the Williams garage is on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiroquai Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 KERS fire , hope everyone is okay. Supposedly there are injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wev Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 KERS fire apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiroquai Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Bloody hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wev Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 The day only gets worse and worse for Bruno Senna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 The latest from F1 chief writer Andrew Benson in the paddock is that one mechanic has been taken to the medical centre to be checked over but the rest of the team is in the clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wev Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Surprising how little damage there is to the outside of that car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudley Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Dear Red Bull. THIS is how you party. Love and Hugs Williams Grand Prix Engineering. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudley Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Schumacher penalised 5 positions in Monaco for the clash with Bruno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wev Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 I was thinking the same as it all kicked off, thought it was probably a bit too soon to post anything though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wev Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Rumour has it that Frank Williams put this on the Williams stereo shortly before the fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Was away, so saw none of the coverage or anything. Could there be problems for Williams from that fire? I mean like penalties for replacing parts, if damaged, and that sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wev Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 I imagine Senna will get a grid palce penalty as the engine etc is probably completely ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy_Sephy Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 As I understand it, retiring from a race because of a faulty engine/gearbox means you don't get a penalty for changing it. Given that their Garage was on fire, I can't see them giving out a penalty for something beyond their control. Choosing to change a gearbox or engine between races is a decision you take. Changing it wouldn't be a decision they make, they will surely have to change it. For the sake of safety it would need to be changed anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layten Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Dear Red Bull. THIS is how you party. Love and Hugs Williams Grand Prix Engineering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudley Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 As I understand it, retiring from a race because of a faulty engine/gearbox means you don't get a penalty for changing it. Given that their Garage was on fire, I can't see them giving out a penalty for something beyond their control. Choosing to change a gearbox or engine between races is a decision you take. Changing it wouldn't be a decision they make, they will surely have to change it. For the sake of safety it would need to be changed anyway. You're right, fire or no fire they were allowed to change them. That said, you can always change an engine for free can't you? You just only have 8 for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy_Sephy Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 True, but that's about 4 more than they should expect to use through normal wear and tear. I can't see engine shortages being a season ending concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPogo Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Dear Red Bull. THIS is how you party. Love and Hugs Williams Grand Prix Engineering. I'd like to think they started it deliberately, so they can say "Sorry, there's not enough fuel left to provide a sample. P.S. Mclaren, THAT is force majeure". 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudley Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 I feel so old, I remember engines being completely rebuilt Friday and Saturday night. And then still exploding on lap 27. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wev Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 I feel so old, I remember engines being completely rebuilt Friday and Saturday night. And then still exploding on lap 27. So late 90s then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halkyon Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Just caught up with the race, nice to see Williams win! Also, how shit was Massa? Blimey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudley Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 So late 90s then? Still seems like another age. I miss Qualifying tyres too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayte Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 What a great day for F1. The return of a legendary team back to the top, Maldanaldo maiden victory, amazing racing right through the field AND all the way to the end - the last 15 laps I was shitting myself, no way did I think the Williams would keep it together for that long on older tyres with Alonso already right up his backside... but the icing on the cake - denying Alonso a win for the Spanish crowd. So sweet Kobs 5th too. And I fucking love this season. Tracks that have been boring in previous years (Bahrain and Spain) have been compelling to watch throughout.... this tyre strategy management has led to slowish starts to the race re:excitement, but everything always comes together near the end - in the past 3 races we have seen this. And that's before mentioning the time differences between the top 4 and the midfield - none. Sauber, Williams and Renault evenly matched if not better on pace with the leaders. It is magic. And what was up with that pit radio for Pastor? GOOD JOB? FUCKING EPIC JOB! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayte Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Also Williams-Ferrari-Renault top 3... just like ye olde days (when they were Benetton) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiroquai Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Pastor Maldonado: Grand Prix winner and temporary fire rescue guy: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudley Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 What a great day for F1. The return of a legendary team back to the top, Maldanaldo maiden victory, amazing racing right through the field AND all the way to the end - the last 15 laps I was shitting myself, no way did I think the Williams would keep it together for that long on older tyres with Alonso already right up his backside Yep, regardless of anything else, Maldonado drove a race that I suspect none of us would have given him the credit to expect from him at the end of last season. If he does nothing else in F1, today he was peerless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayte Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 OMG watching the F1 forum now, McLaren physio Aki touching up Eddie's ankles (he tripped over a wire to get an interview with Frank) in the centre of the paddock... all the cameras taking pictures Your move Sky! edit: and now they're wheeling him on a trolley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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