Sport The Formula 1 Thread

[kiroquai]

Bah, multi-answer questions are the best type of question

EDIT: and if that half of one is the plastic ear one, you're probably wrong

[kiroquai]

Yes, yes you are

[RFT]

Q4: Tyrell, phoenix 1990. unless you mean with the wing running underneath, then it's benetton, phoenix 1991.

Q6: Weren't the 1992 Andrea Modas based on some Nick Wirth Cast-offs?

[Ninek]

Q4: Tyrell, phoenix 1990. unless you mean with the wing running underneath, then it's benetton, phoenix 1991.

They didn't reveal their high nose until the start of the "European" season, so my bet would be Imola '90

[JPR]

4) Benetton 91, I seem to recall them taking off in 96 except for Ferrari who only put one on the F310 sometime mid season, a car that makes this seasons look almost pretty.

5) Gilles Villeneuve

7) Lamborghini V12, remember the engine as it was so expensive in Grand Prix Manager 2.

9) Nikki Lauda

[Dudley]

Nah, it's the raised nose one, though I'm probably wrong on that too.

Benetton, 1994

You could debate raised nose but regardless, the team you state had run a similar nose for 3 years at that point.

[JPR]

Q4: Tyrell, phoenix 1990. unless you mean with the wing running underneath, then it's benetton, phoenix 1991.

I did wonder about the Tyrell I always remember that funny nose, I do recall them trying many strange design ideas.

[reani_]

Q9:

Alex Zanardi is one of them?

[JPR]

Q9:

Alex Zanardi is one of them?

He lost both legs, also I assume the question means raced in F1 with those which he didn't?

[Dudley]

Wrong answers

1 - Ok, that is a Toleman, so we're early 1980s here. I think it's 82 or 83, so we're talking the Warwick/Henton era. I *think* this is Teo Fabi at Watkins Glen and (this is where I'm wrong I'm sure) that one of their drivers couldn't get entry to the US for some reason.

2 - He won, against all odds in a car that was not supposed to finish the race because of its gearbox. Schumacher did not win at Montreal but did end up giving the winner a lift back. (Alesi). Is it they both gave people lifts?

3 - The one thing I remember about the 1993 Italian GP is a Minardi changing down several gears by itself, setting what at the time was a rev record for F1 and grenading, unsighting the other minardi driver who hit his wheel and flipped. It's cars flipping on the start straight isn't it.

4 - It depends how you define it, but the general opinion would be the Tyrrell 019, which appeared at the first euro round of 1990. I'll say the San Marino GP.

5 - G vill? He's saying was, so you're looking at dead people. It's Senna or G.Vill and Vill was a compatriot.

6 - Wirth was involved with the FIRST project wasn't he? Which I *THINK* was the mess that became the 1990 Life car.

7 - Chrysler.

8 - I bet it's someone I don't know during the 52/53 F2 seasons.

9 - Not a clue.

10 - Leo? At the risk of embarrassing myself, first black guy?

He lost both legs, also I assume the question means raced in F1 with those which he didn't?

Yeah I assume they drove the F1 car like that (don't bother checking my spoiler for this, I didn't even guess) and of course he never did.

[Ninek]

Wrong answers

4 - It depends how you define it, but the general opinion would be the Tyrrell 019, which appeared at the first euro round of 1990. I'll say the San Marino GP.

They didn't reveal their high nose until the start of the "European" season, so my bet would be Imola '90

Imola was the San Marino GP track.

[kiroquai]

Should point out that I did indeed mean drove an F1 race with plastic ear/ lower right leg!

[Dudley]

Imola was the San Marino GP track.

I didn't read anyone else's answers, that would be cheating, it's also why I spoilered mine.

I get any right kiro?

[layten]

Scarbs has his views on the new McLaren up. http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2012/02/02/launch-analysis-mclaren-mercedes-mp4-27/

[Ninek]

I didn't read anyone else's answers, that would be cheating, it's also why I spoilered mine.

I get any right kiro?

Well played sir.

[kiroquai]

Okay, let's have a look at these answers!

Question 1: Currently Wrong!

Question 2: Currently Wrong (Dudley is along the right lines, but each race shared a specific and unusual happening)

Question 3: Currently Wrong (Again, Dudley is along the right lines, but not quite matched the two up)

Question 4: Solved! (via NineK and Dudley) - Tyrrell, 1990, Imola

Question 5: Solved! (via JPR and Dudley) - Gilles Villeneuve

Question 6: Currently Wrong (First F1/Life (indeed related as Dudley suggests!) was a Richard Divila chassis. He also designed the 1988 Ligier that had the gearbox between the engine and fuel tank. Figures).

Question 7: Solved (via JPR and Dudley) - Lamborghini V12 (badged as a Chrysler - Senna thought it was pretty good!)

Question 8: Currently Wrong (although Dudley has the year in one of his two suggestions)

Question 9: Currently Wrong

Question 10: Currently Wrong

[RFT]

Re: Q6 the andrea moda S291 was definitely designed by Nick Wirth/Simtek (originally for BMW, who never signed off on it)

source - F1 Rejects

He had previously worked for march/leyton house as well...

[kiroquai]

Oh, oops!

Question 6: Solved! (RFT got it - Andrea Moda. Sadly I was too much of a knobber to notice his post).

Oh, and Dudley got the team right for Q1... just not the year, driver, circuit or the strange reason it happened .

The unsolved questions (for the new page)

Question 1

Take a look at this picture:

Who, what and when? As a bonus, can you tell me the unusual situation that led to this driver being in the car at this particular race weekend?

Question 2

What do Nigel Mansell's race at Rio 1989 and Michael Schumacher's drive at Montreal in 1995 have in common?

Question 3

In a similar vein, what do the last lap of the 1991 Spanish Grand Prix and the last lap of the 1993 Italian Grand Prix have in common?

Question 8

Who was the first British driver to win a (championship counting) Formula One race for Ferrari, and which race in which year did he do this?

Question 9

Which Formula One drivers raced with a) a plastic ear and b) a prosthetic lower right leg?

Question 10

Leo Kinnunen was a pretty average backmarker in Formula One during 1974 . However, his appearance at the 1974 Swedish Grand Prix proved a milestone for the sport. What was it?

Have fun everyone

[RFT]

Q1: I'm going ot take a guess that the track is Monza (based on the width, the parked alfa). usual driver having "legal" problems?

Q2: First win in a Ferrari.

Q8: Mike Hawthorn? 1955?

Q10: First Finn to score points?

[kiroquai]

RFT has got the circuit right for Q1, and yeah - as such the usual driver was having legal issues of a sort . He also correctly guessed the driver for Q8, and as Dudley has the right year I'll go and...

Question 8: Solved! (via RFT and an assist from Dudley) - Mike Hawthorn, 1953 (French GP, in case you wondered).

[Dudley]

Oh so Q1 is that circuit, people know know the circuit I suggested can hopefully see why I did.

RFT - For Rio 1989 and Montreal 1995 you're certainly right about the races sharing that but that doesn't seem to be where Michael comes in.

And yes, Nick Wirth certainly did work for March, he's an old friend of Max Mosely. There were some suggestions this helped Manor get their F1 entry.

[kiroquai]

Right, okay, some hints to help prod you along

Q1: The driver in question went on to drive in Formula One for pretty much the next decade, mostly for the same team. Dudley got the team right - it's Toleman. RFT got the circuit right, it's Monza. The reason this driver was in the car had something to do with Lotus (which will give you the year if you get the link).

Q2: Something faulty needed replacing in both instances.

Q3: The co-incidence wasn't the incident itself so much as the cars involved.

Q9: Mid-to-late 1950s driver who shared his first name with the driver who won the 1995 Canadian Grand Prix. The other was a Lotus driver who sadly died at Spa during the Black Weekend in 1960.

Q10: Something to do with something he was wearing!

[Dudley]

Haha, I cheated and looked up Spain 1991.

For those who have read my spoilered answer, the incident I remembered as being the 1991 Spanish GP actually happened in the 1992 Portugese race. In my defence those are very similar circuits.

[Nick_L]

Q2

They both stopped for new steering wheels ?

[reani_]

Another go on Q9:

Alan Stacey

Edited February 3, 2012 by reani_

[Dudley]

re : Monza I really should have gone with my gut after I thought I recognised the helmet.

At the risk of spoiling, there's very few drivers that weren't especially successful but are indelibly linked to a single team. If you've been a fan of F1 long enough, this is probably the one you're thinking of. Top bloke too.

[RFT]

Q1: I know the answer now, but only because I went and looked it up, across several pages... so I won;t post it

Q10: not first full-face helmet, so I'm going to say first person to wear nomex....

[kiroquai]

Reani has got Alan Stacey right for Q9 - he raced without his lower right leg. Bloody good driver too, by all accounts! (plus, I trust Reani got that without the hint too).

Nick has got Q2 right - in both races those drivers had a five-wheel pitstop; all four normal wheels and the steering wheel!

Oh, and RFT has got Q10 wrong, but he's so close to being right it's untrue. Something he has written, if applied the other way around... not the first, but the last...

[Nick_L]

How awesome was the 1995 Canadian GP:

Happiest podium ever?

[mexos]

A crime that he only stood there once. With better machinery (and better luck - not many had worse) through his career I'd have had him down as a double world champion at least. If only he'd taken that Williams contract...