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Over on Somthing Awful, someone asked "What's the minimum you could spend to get your name on an F1 car?" The suggestion was it would probably have taken about £20k for HRT to give you a "Cool spot".

But it got us back to how much it could be done for in the past, and my favourite example of team resourcefulness.

The year is 1992. After some "Interesting" legal cases, the Leyton House team was sold for pennies to management. Pennies was also what they had to run the team. They arrived in Canada scraping money together an someone had the bright idea of visiting the local mall. Come Sunday, the car looked like this.

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Which leads us to the answer to the question "How cheap can you get on an F1 car?" Well, the restaurant on there go on by feeding the team (which was basically a pit crew and 2 drivers at this point) for the weekend.

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To be fair, they could barely run 1 car let alone 2. Both drivers left the team before the end of the season, giving another stat that even Luca Badoer didn't quite break, the most days between 2 grand prix starts for a driver. When March hired him for the last few races of 1992, Jan Lammers hadn't started a Grand Prix since mid-1982.

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He's right though. Vettel has had far and away the best car and the best support in F1 of late. If Hamilton had had a Redbull he would have done the same .... to be fair though i think even some one like Massa would have got close to winning if he'd had the Redbull.

But Hamilton is the best/most exciting driver on the grid at the moment as far as i'm concerned. Him and Alonso should have been fighting for the championship between them for the last 4 years, But the cars just haven't delivered for them.

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I don't like this.. the nice comments from Tel. It makes me scared.

It is indeed sinister.

Alonso has clearly been given a new script. Whether he genuinely believes that or not (and not many neutrals would agree with him), it's obviously designed to wind up Vettel or recruit Hamilton. The latter seems more likely.

Can Hamilton really be seduced that easily and transparently?

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"Lewis is very fast, aggressive and totally focused, he is only interested in victory. Sebastian has not reached that level yet,"

:blink:

Vettel is entirely focused on victory. Every time he wins a GP he starts screaming like a child in the cockpit... winning is everything to him. Even after he'd secured the championship, you could see how much just winning one GP meant to him.

Hamilton massively lost focus this season. Very rarely did he seem to be able to put everything that was going on around him to one side and just concentrate on winning.

Two years ago this comment would have made sense.. now it's just mental.. there must be a massive agenda behind it.

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Over on Somthing Awful, someone asked "What's the minimum you could spend to get your name on an F1 car?" The suggestion was it would probably have taken about £20k for HRT to give you a "Cool spot".

But it got us back to how much it could be done for in the past, and my favourite example of team resourcefulness.

The year is 1992. After some "Interesting" legal cases, the Leyton House team was sold for pennies to management. Pennies was also what they had to run the team. They arrived in Canada scraping money together an someone had the bright idea of visiting the local mall. Come Sunday, the car looked like this.

rMn0G.jpg

Which leads us to the answer to the question "How cheap can you get on an F1 car?" Well, the restaurant on there go on by feeding the team (which was basically a pit crew and 2 drivers at this point) for the weekend.

It was probably pre-F1 when he was at that level, but I think Eddie Jordan was doing similar for most of his career. I'm sure I read that once he was peeling stickers on and off multiple times during a race weekend, having secured different combinations of sponsors for each of the practice, qualifying and race sessions.

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It was probably pre-F1 when he was at that level, but I think Eddie Jordan was doing similar for most of his career. I'm sure I read that once he was peeling stickers on and off multiple times during a race weekend, having secured different combinations of sponsors for each of the practice, qualifying and race sessions.

Yeah at anything lower all bets are off, I'm not surprised Eddie did that but when we were at Sebring in 2009 Autocon did the same and secured a sponsor just for the warm up and race.

Which is why it was such a shame that the car wouldn't start and never made the race at all.

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Yeah at anything lower all bets are off, I'm not surprised Eddie did that but when we were at Sebring in 2009 Autocon did the same and secured a sponsor just for the warm up and race.

Which is why it was such a shame that the car wouldn't start and never made the race at all.

:D

Taking his career as a whole, Eddie's master stroke had to be the year he got three sponsors (think it was 7-Up, Agfa and the Irish Tourist Board) to all pay loads of extra money so that "the car will be painted green to match your brand, and really emphasise your place as the main sponsor".

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Yeah at anything lower all bets are off, I'm not surprised Eddie did that but when we were at Sebring in 2009 Autocon did the same and secured a sponsor just for the warm up and race.

Which is why it was such a shame that the car wouldn't start and never made the race at all.

They sound like they're ripe for a Transformers sponsorship.

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Took these pics to show someone else, but I guess you guys might appreciate them too.

My dad just finished building this Lotus 78 model the other day...

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And he has now started on this Ferrari, which I'm told is a right fiddly bastard, with quite a lot of metal bits that need putting together with some teeny tiny screws that you can see in the top left of the box in the second pic. Also comes with a little piece of suede to trim the drivers seat with!

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So far he's been putting together the engine, gearbox and suspension arms, which you can see are fitted with those little dinky screws...

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The Lotus and some others he's built previously...

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They are fantastic - especially love the 312-T4 there :wub:. Shame it's number 11 rather than number 12, mind ;).

I can't do kits. I've tried before and I am just too cack-handed to make them to any degree of competence, hence I just buy Minichamps usually. Friend of mine grabbed this shot of my latest two whilst experimenting with his new camera:

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