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mexos

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So basically they've raped the BBC twice. It's a VERY good team.

Not sure how I feel about this really. It's a bit like a second kick in the nuts for the beeb, I feel sorry for them (the rest of the team left behind), given what an amazing job they've been doing.

I hope they can bring some people in of equal quality and don't give in to temptation to give Leggard another chance.

Still waiting on news from Virgin Media on the channel

Yeah, I'm REALLY nervous on this one. No news makes me think there going to fuck us.

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kiroquai

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If they get Ben Edwards in to do commentary as has been rumoured then they'll be fine - he's one of the best in the business.

Personally I'd love Ben Edwards in the box alongside John Watson, with DC going back to punditry with EJ and of course with Jake presenting.

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They've certainly gone in hard. It's a very strong team & the Croft/Brundle commentary team with Davidson in the practices is my personal dream ticket. I've also softened to whole thing, but i know this is because it doesn't directly effect me. It's still not good at all for Virgin/BBC fans.

Like it or not i think the BBC coverage is screwed & we will see EJ & DC come over in a year or so. I for one don't really welcome our new Sky overlords, but i think the writing is on the paywall.

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The more I think about their smash and grab, the more it's making me angry.

Yes, this has really annoyed me, do think one of the big losses is Ted Kravitz, I didn't like him too much in his ITV days but think he's fantastic now.

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I'm looking forward to seeing more of Pinkman on TV instead of radio :eyebrows:

I caught Ryder doing a goodwood show on ITV4 the other day & him interviewing the old school greats would probably work well as well.

Fuck it is a smash & grab BUT at least it looks like it will be good coverage. To be fair, sky could have stuck it behind a huge paywall & given us shit coverage with people like Jardine. At least we look set to get good output, IF you go with sky.

I wish it was still the BBC as it was but the reality is it isn't :(

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kiroquai

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Yeah, same. I loved the BBC coverage and what they bought to it. In one (probably selfish on my behalf) respect I am pleased because it means I can watch all the races live with a great crew that I am familiar with, but for those unable to get Sky it's a real kicker.

Hoping Simon Lazenby is presenting from the paddock ala Jake. Mind you, I do get the feeling that some drivers and team bosses might get in a sneaky dig at Sky and/or be more helpful towards the Beeb, at least at the start of things.

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Dudley

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It entirely depends who he has with him. People talk to Brundle. People talk to EJ. DC isn't short of friends.

Neither Jake or Simon have that credibility (although Jake was starting to earn it). They need someone who can just walk into the Ferrari garage, hug 3 people and get an answer.

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mexos

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Hoping Simon Lazenby is presenting from the paddock ala Jake. Mind you, I do get the feeling that some drivers and team bosses might get in a sneaky dig at Sky and/or be more helpful towards the Beeb, at least at the start of things.

Certainly Jenson's reaction at the Autosport awards would suggest so. Prob is though that people like Brundle are F1 people first and BBC people second. I could see Sky people getting a hard time, but not the likes of Brundle.

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mexos

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That what they do in america ... and its utter shit !!!!

FOR FUCKS SAKE

I disagree. All the excitement is taken out of a SC restart if the guy in 2nd is 4 cars behind the leader. As far as I'm concerned it's a good move. SC without this is a waste of time for me. If your not going to do this, then scrap the SC. We got along for decades very well without it.

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Dudley

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Is it just ALMS then where they let backmarkers go until they get to the first car leading a class ? I though NASCAR had the reset at each sfety car.

The key there "until the leader"

That's fine.

F1 is going to literally let everyone unlap themselves, even if they're already 2nd last in the line.

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Dudley

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I disagree. All the excitement is taken out of a SC restart if the guy in 2nd is 4 cars behind the leader. As far as I'm concerned it's a good move. SC without this is a waste of time for me. If your not going to do this, then scrap the SC. We got along for decades very well without it.

No we didn't, we killed many, many drivers.

The guy in 2nd is 4 cars behind the leader because he was already 4 behind the leader. The SC is not there to make the race exciting, it's to keep people safe. The leader had to pass those cars, why should the guy in 2nd get an advantage?

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The FIA also said that from 2012, drivers will not be allowed to move back onto the racing line after having moved off it to defend their position.

This can only make the racing more sterile and dependent on DRS.

I might not be so hard to not watch F1 next year after all. :hmm:

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I disagree. All the excitement is taken out of a SC restart if the guy in 2nd is 4 cars behind the leader. As far as I'm concerned it's a good move. SC without this is a waste of time for me. If your not going to do this, then scrap the SC. We got along for decades very well without it.

Ive to agree with this. Id much prefer to see 1st, 2nd and 3rd bunched up together during safety car, it brings it back to racing and especially the likes of Vettel running away with each and every race if a safety car is deployed it gives the others to catch up.

Ok some will argue that If Driver X is 25seconds ahead then he deserves it, but usually they are the same people that go OH FFS another Driver X parade.

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Dudley

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Ive to agree with this. Id much prefer to see 1st, 2nd and 3rd bunched up together during safety car, it brings it back to racing

No it doesn't, it brings it back to artificial bunching. You chose a different pit strategy to pull out an early lead? Fuck you. Your race is ruined by luck. It's the exact opposite of racing.

Safety cars, should come out nutralise the race then go back in. The order should not be atificially changed to make it exciting.

Exactly. Given my way I favour the old Indy 500 approach. 20 seconds behind when the SC comes out? You'll start 20 seconds behind after it.

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Problem is, a certain German was doing that exact thing at Monza and got caned for it at the time :sherlock:

He was weaving around like a spinning top and then driving Hamilton onto the grass. That's different to defending the corner then moving back for the racing line.

This is aimed at Hamilton moving back across and clipping Koby at Spa. It means the driver infront is now responsible for the car behind as he's made a move off the line and can't come back on to it "in case" the car behind is too close. Its bollocks.

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Your race is ruined by luck. It's the exact opposite of racing.

What I meant by its racing is that you now have a 2, 3 or 4 cars all close togehter fighting for a position....i.e that is racing. I do know what you mean though and point taken.

My thought is that Safety car isn't deployed at all races, its not a foregone conclusion and therfore part of racing in F1 is luck. Sometimes you can get a flat type just before the pits (great) sometimes just when you pass the pit (not so great). Its the unknown that teams will have to adjust to I think will be interesting.

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kiroquai

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I still maintain that what Schumacher did at Monza was perfectly fine, apart from the one move between the two Lesmos which was out of order. Other than that there was the time Hamilton went on the grass at Curve Grande, of which even Jenson Button admitted looked like Lewis was going for a gap that was never there, and a lot of Schumacher taking the racing line back when Hamilton wasn't even alongside (mostly into Ascari). It was aggressive and assertive, but it's was nothing over and above anything I've seen in the past twenty-odd years of watching F1.

I'm also convinced if the roles had been reversed and Hamilton had been blocking Schumacher then most of our media wouldn't have even commented on it, but that's another matter :sherlock:

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