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Ferrari should dump Massa and stick DiResta in on a 1 year while he's still not under contract. Can't do any worse. There's no way of them winning the constructors (the one they say they always want) next year if they stick with Mr Lol.

Massa is better than Webber.

Today Webber had the fastest car and came third whilst Alonso in the fifth fastest car came second. Says it all really.

Massa tends to finish the Ferrari where it should be.

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Massa is better than Webber.

Today Webber had the fastest car and came third whilst Alonso in the fifth fastest car came second. Says it all really.

Massa tends to finish the Ferrari where it should be.

Yep, it wasn't Massa's fault at all that he spun it into the weeds.

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Massa is better than Webber.

Today Webber had the fastest car and came third whilst Alonso in the fifth fastest car came second. Says it all really.

Massa tends to finish the Ferrari where it should be.

Webber came fourth and was let down by a crap pit stop as well. The Red Bull didn't do well on the straights and he's the second driver. Massa spun, as someone else put it, under pressure from fresh air.

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I don't believe I supported Webber. It's more than possible for 2 drivers to be worse than their cars.

Massa is the number 2 driver in the third best team. So his natural finishing position is 6th.

These are his results this season: 7,5,6,11,retd,retd,6,5,5,5,6,8,6,9,7,6,retd,5.

So, on average, he is neither under or over performing the car.

Webber is the number 2 driver in the very best car. His natural finishing position is second. These are his results this season: 5,4,3,2,4,4,3,3,3,3,5,2,retd,3,4,3,4,4.

So, on average, he is underperforming the car.

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Massa is the number 2 driver in the third best team. So his natural finishing position is 6th.

These are his results this season: 7,5,6,11,retd,retd,6,5,5,5,6,8,6,9,7,6,retd,5.

So, on average, he is neither under or over performing the car.

Webber is the number 2 driver in the very best car. His natural finishing position is second. These are his results this season: 5,4,3,2,4,4,3,3,3,3,5,2,retd,3,4,3,4,4.

So, on average, he is underperforming the car.

So what about drivers outperforming their cars? Presumably Button, Hamilton and Alonso are all outperforming?

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So what about drivers outperforming their cars? Presumably Button, Hamilton and Alonso are all outperforming?

Alonso is the number one driver in the third best team so he should be finishing 5th.

Actual results: 4,6,7,3,5,2,retd,2,1,2,3,4,3,4,2,5,3,2.

So massively outperforming.

Button and Hamilton are joint number one drivers of the second best team, so should both be averaging 3.5.

The reality:

Button: 6,2,4,6,3,3,1,6,retd,retd,1,3,2,2,1,4,2,3.

Hamilton: 2,8,1,4,2,6,retd,4,4,1,4,retd,4,5,5,2,7,1.

So Button is definitely outperforming.

Hamilton is not really this season.

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Looking at the results Hamilton has done about as well as Massa relative to the cars they are driving and their positions within the team.

No he hasn't you muppet

Even you on your own scale o mentalness disprove this, Lewis has out performed his car multiple times to a position of 2.5 max. Massa has Maximum outperformed his car to a position of 1 max.

Vettel is the worst driver on the grid, he has failed to outperform his car once and under performed it a few times - by infinity today :o

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