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Shimmyhill

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It wouldn't surprise me, Lotus are fucked without help, in August their TOTAL sales in the UK were 6. Six cars. And Proton's were massively, massively down on 2010 in a generally positive market too.

Where is that figure from?

Not that it matters, they make most of their money from Lotus engineering and selling tech and expertise to others, good mate of mine works there doing exhaust sonic work and its sold to all sorts of brands etc!

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Sidewaysbob

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Whenever Stewart pops up and starts telling all and sundry just how much harder it was in his day ... i immediately disregard anything he has to say.

Yeah he saved lives and won a few championship, but he seems to feel that gives him the right to pontificate endlessly about how he single handily saved every driver ever and he could have won more championships if he wasn't trying to save so many lives.

He also seems to feel that driving a modern F1 car is a piece of piss and any monkey could do it these days. It was far far harder in his day etc etc. it was all analogue back in his day. Now it's digital and that means there's no skill apparently.

Anyway, whilst i dislike the man, Schumacher is a 7 times world champions and you can't take that away from him. Yes he was in the best car and had a team mate who moved over when he was told. But he was/is bloody fast and had the sort of mind that could think out races. He could also deliver a stint of fastest laps is that was what it took to win the race. He knew what he wanted the car to do and he would test the thing into the ground until it was perfect Stewart doesn't rate him because he knows Schumacher was utterly ruthless and single minded about winning championship. Something he wasn't.

As for Senna.... well he drove Prost of the circuit at Suzuka. So i have to agree with Stewart, which is painful.

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I'm not saying what he did was wrong. Too many drivers were dying and he "helped" to end that. But he now struts around with the air of a saint and a very smug attitude. He believes with every fibre of his being in what ever he's saying to be true. Despite not having driven a competitive F1 car for 40 years.

Besides which no one held a gun to he head of Weldon or Cevert or even Senna and made them drive a car very very fast, the risk of death is very well known and despite all the precautions people can died. That's racing I'm afraid.

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Dr Slotter

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Surprising if true. I'm always seeing brand new Lotuses driving about in Norfolk, although maybe if they've got that little work on they're just sending the staff out in unsold cars to try and make themselves look more popular.

Lotus total new car sales Jan-Aug 2011 were around 275 compared to around 350 for the same period in 2010.

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mexos

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So it looks like Raik will be unveiled at Abu Dhabi. They should have stuck him in a car for a Friday first to see if he can still do it. And on top of that apply himself. Williams don't just need a fast driver, they need someone to help them develop themselves out of lower midfield hell.

The whole thing smacks of desperation from Williams.

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Dudley

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Well he's a comprehensive failure at rally. In 2 seasons his best result is a single 5th place in a series that normally only sees 8-10 credible entries.

So I guess it's his only option short of going to rot in sportscars. Can't see Williams working out well at all though.

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zxcvbnm

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Bahrain should go because it's a borefest anyway. Been on the calendar since 2004, and I don't recall a single incident worth noting... sure you could argue that isn't the location's fault, but to this day it still remains a squiggly round line of tarmac in a desert.

Ditto with Valencia, but the revenue from the fish market will keep it going.

Wait.....there's a fish market in Valencia? Why wasn't I told this?

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kiroquai

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So it looks like Raik will be unveiled at Abu Dhabi. They should have stuck him in a car for a Friday first to see if he can still do it. And on top of that apply himself. Williams don't just need a fast driver, they need someone to help them develop themselves out of lower midfield hell.

The whole thing smacks of desperation from Williams.

From what I gather, Williams approached the bank about the sponsorship and they said yes, but only if they had a World Champion driving for them. Raikkonen's the only option really!

Unless....

Jacques02.jpg

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mexos

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Ferrari threatening to pull out of F1 again

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95966

"Formula 1 is still our life, but without Ferrari there is no Formula 1, just as without Formula 1 Ferrari would be different," said di Montezemolo.

Go on then, fuck off. The premiership would still survive without Man U. F1 would most certainly survive without you. This is part of why I hate them so much, the holier than thou attitude. They think there bigger than the sport. Your just a team. One of many.

Times change, yes they have history in the sport but Ferrari are very much replaceable. Would the TV figures disappear if they did? I doubt we'd see a blip.

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Halkyon

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Go on then, fuck off ... F1 would most certainly survive without you.

Yep, Ferrari and their attitude are actually one of the things that put me off F1.

Times change, yes they have history in the sport

They still receive extra money for being around a long time, F1 needs some serious modernisation in it's organisational structure.

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Dudley

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I think we'd see a fairly significant blip. And an utter plunge in Italy.

Long term would it recover? Entirely possibly, but they're not entirely wrong here, even if they're being dickwaving cocks about it.

I'm actually with them on private cars though, just make them last seasons and let people go hog wild with part time entries (with the proviso that if you build your own car you guarantee a start if you're within 107% even if there are quicker private cars).

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mexos

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I'm actually with them on private cars though, just make them last seasons and let people go hog wild with part time entries (with the proviso that if you build your own car you guarantee a start if you're within 107% even if there are quicker private cars).

That's not what they are saying though. They'd like to see the HRT's and Caterham's, Saubers etc killed off for a championship full of Ferrari's and other top teams.

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kiroquai

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This isn't F1, but the Richard Burns Foundation have released the below video to tie in with the tenth anniversary of Richard winning the WRC, and hopefully spread the word about the foundation's work too.

As a warning, it does feature a few photos of Richard whilst he was quite ill so it's pretty difficult viewing.

Amazing that it's been ten years since that all happened.

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Halkyon

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I guess Alonso wants two team-slaves to block Hamilton for him.

Joe Saward gets it right again (on Ferrari). And on agendas...

While stirring up trouble in F1 with remarks about Ferrari quitting the sport, Ferrari boss Luca di Montezemolo may simply have been using the F1 as a way to keep his name in the newspapers. Montezemolo is believed to be the leading candidate to replace Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi, when his government finally falls apart, something it has been threatening to do for months. Last week Montezmolo called for a “government of national salvation” to save Italy from a possible debt crisis. In a letter to the La Repubblica newspaper, Montezemolo argued that a new government would be better than early elections because the ruling majority is deeply divided and time would be wasted in creating new alliances.

“There’s no time to lose,” Montezemolo wrote. “At stake are the savings of the Italian people, social cohesion and Italy’s continued membership of the euro.”

Montezemolo put forward a five point plan to save the country from financial ruin and called on the President to create a government of national unity to solve the problems. He called for reduced political costs, enforced flexibility in labour contracts, the curbing temporary employment practices, the overhaul of the tax code and the reform of pensions.

“If Berlusconi continues to prefer his own ambitions over the good of Italy, and if the majority supports this dangerous choice, a political career that has had its ups and downs but does not deserve to sink into the spirit of ‘apres moi, le deluge’ will end in the worst possible way.”

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mexos

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"That's why the number of testing days needs to be revised: not only because we are the only sporting discipline where athletes are strictly forbidden from training on their 'pitch' but also because the current restrictions make it impossible for youngsters to progress and experience driving for real rather than just in the virtual world of the simulator.

Nothing to do with the fact you can't design a cutting edge car anymore and you need to test 24/7 to get back up to speed?

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Halkyon

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Since they had a junior line up of drivers contracted to them that's 2nd only to Red Bull's and since they brought Massa into F1?

Ferrari have not taken on a driver without at least one year of F1 experience since 1978. Only 33 years ago.

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