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What's the deal here?

PHProxy muck's up apostrophes. So when i'm posting from college it does that crap.

I'm beginning to think that the usage of borders shouldn't be allowed in the competition... just present the photos as-is. A good border can draw a lot of attention to the image, and isn't quite as natural as the rules try to specifiy.

I'd agree with you if you needed specialist software to add boarders, but it's easy enough for anyone to do.

If we start down this road we'll be banning different types of cameras soon enough...

I've thought the same in the past, along with that perhaps a size limit should be imposed too ('longest side must measure a maximum of 800 pixels' sort of thing),as bigger images tend to have more impact than smaller ones.

However, I suppose adding a border and posting a bigger picture is doable by anyone should they want to...

The only size restriction should be for presentablity. I.e not 2000x3000.

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The only size restriction should be for presentablity.

Well, on that note the size of your entry this month means that when the top of your image is touching the address bar in Firefox everything below 3/4 down the leaf stalk is off bottom of the screen (using 1024x768 resolution, which I don't think is unusually low).

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Well, on that note the size of your entry this month means that when the top of your image is touching the address bar in Firefox everything below 3/4 down the leaf stalk is off bottom of the screen (using 1024x768 resolution, which I don't think is unusually small).

Reasonable point, i was just being lazy and letting flickr do it for me.

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I see you've shrunken it now, and must say it looks rather less impressive at that size... (echoing what I said before about bigger often having more impact). You'd best go back to the original for now (or at least bigger than that one) and we'll keep any restrictions beyond the 'clearly ridiculous' to a discussion basis at the minute :S

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The photo comp that runs where I work specifies a maximum size of 1000 pixels (either width or height) which allows for a decent size image without ruining the effect.

As for borders, I don't mind one way or the other. My earlier entries had borders but I couldn't be bothered for the later ones.

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I personally feel a title is enough. I love Asura entry this month, but it is of a completely unrealated subject matter (somthing which would happen more often without the guide photos!) Going by his logic i could have taken a timelapse photo of carton of fresh orange on a path and because we're in october and it's slightly reminisant of autumnal colours it'd be valid. Which is just plain wrong.

No, it's not.

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No, it's not.

Ah but it is in his opinion, and mine to some extent. Your interpretation is just different, and that's cool. The votes should reflect that diversity.

If someone posted a photo of a cat and the cat was named Autumn, does it qualify? In the spirit of this month's theme and the reason it was chosen I'd say no. But it does still reflect Autumn. If it won it would be frustrating for the contributors who searched all month for a good representatation of Autumn in the conventional sense and in line with the chosen theme.

But where do you draw the line? It's impossible. And there's always a lovely mix of entries which is the whole point :P .

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If it won it would be frustrating for the contributors who searched all month for a good representatation of Autumn in the conventional sense and in line with the chosen theme.

Maybe that's just it, i'd rather people show me for unconventional things and ideas; I don't have much interest in technical artistry. Like you say, that's my preference and why I thought most of the entries in the food one were pretty weak.

But where do you draw the line? It's impossible. And there's always a lovely mix of entries which is the whole point :( .

Yeah, precisely. That's exactly why i'm saying there should be as few rules as possible and that the reference images are a bad idea, especially for those who try and search for the conventional.

:P

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I think It should be down to the person picking the subject to specify any caveats to that month's subject. As an example, with last month's Food subject it could have been specified that pictures should be of foodstuffs normally consumed by humans, which would've excluded shots of spiders eating flies etc. Alternatively there's no reason why a subject shouldn't be completely open to the participants interpretation. The decision is down to the person who picks the topic.

At the end of the day it will be the voters who decide whether a picture fits the theme or not anyway.

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Maybe that's just it, i'd rather people show me for unconventional things and ideas; I don't have much interest in technical artistry. Like you say, that's my preference and why I thought most of the entries in the food one were pretty weak.

Yeah, precisely. That's exactly why i'm saying there should be as few rules as possible and that the reference images are a bad idea, especially for those who try and search for the conventional.

:P

For me this compeition is about people's skill.

Now that can be anything: Their eye for a shot, conceptual abilities or technical skills - Anything is acceptable! Provided it is reasonably within the bounds of the theme

You personally want the competition shifted into being more unconventional stance reguardless of theme, but that's not going to be a good move for openess to other forumites and simplicity (que 4 page essays explaining peoples pictures) In short it's not what the compeition was founded for. If the majority wants it to change then fair enough i'll shut up, but i disagree.

This is a competition, granted it's all in good fun. But compeitions generally only work well with well defined bounds (think: spelling compeition's where you're allowed to spell a different word than the word given if you feel like it - terribly example, but it's just to try and let you understand my point: it makes it unfair when people are allowed to continually shift the goalposts. I'm not saying don't be creative and don't think outside the box. But as a rule of thumb i think if you need to use more than one word to connect your picture to the theme then you're way off.

My only gripe here is that things are outwidth the theme not that the photos are un-conventional. However if someone who won choose a really abstract theme i'd totally be down with that aswell. (If i win my topic would be: "What is happiness to you?")

Anyways, i personally think this is fishys call.

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Ok, next comp I'm gonna leave out the example pics and ask the subject chooser to be as open or restrictive as they want in the wording of their choice - it'll then be down to the entrants to abide by that description and for voters to take it into consideration when picking their winners. I'll leave image size open for the time being as not everyone will have the means to resize their pictures effectively.

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For me this compeition is about people's skill.

Now that can be anything: Their eye for a shot, conceptual abilities or technical skills - Anything is acceptable! Provided it is reasonably within the bounds of the theme

You personally want the competition shifted into being more unconventional stance reguardless of theme, but that's not going to be a good move for openess to other forumites and simplicity (que 4 page essays explaining peoples pictures) In short it's not what the compeition was founded for. If the majority wants it to change then fair enough i'll shut up, but i disagree.

No, I really don't want it changed at all, you're misinterpreting - I said I prefer conceptual ideas to technical artistry, but I more than totally think there is room for both, and has been been discussed, the voting always reflects that. I just think you're interpretation of reasonably within bounds of the theme is totally different to mine and that's cool, we'll vote differently.

I personally don't think any of the photos entered have ever needed any further explanation of the theme.

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No, I really don't want it changed at all, you're misinterpreting - I said I prefer conceptual ideas to technical artistry, but I more than totally think there is room for both, and has been been discussed, the voting always reflects that. I just think you're interpretation of reasonably within bounds of the theme is totally different to mine and that's cool, we'll vote differently.

I personally don't think any of the photos entered have ever needed any further explanation of the theme.

You said you 'prefered' somthing. This is a thread about the rules of the photo comp...I didn't exactly make a massive assumption there.

As i said in my post. There is room for both. But we ought to have bounds in place so the compeition remains fair.(if i have an awesome picture of a cat sitting drinking some milk i shouldn't be allowed to enter it in a compeition about autumn!)

People are being asked to take photos of a certain theme. If they can't find somthing that fits in with it then that's just too bad!

I'm not saying abstract/conceptual work shouldn't be entered, i am saying that photos should be meet the breif of the theme so that any 'reasonable' person can get the assioation without much thought or a terribly large volume of text explaining it.

I'm not trying to stifle creativity. I'm just trying to keep it fair.

One more thing.. Did the rules state that settings and any manipulation had to be declared? Could we have a reminder on that, please? :lol:

I don't rightly remember. But i don't think it's of that much importance ither way.

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I don't rightly remember. But i don't think it's of that much importance ither way.

No, not really :lol: .

I just thought that the Autumn theme is quite heavily associated with colour (for example) and excessive manipulation could swing a crap picture into a very relevant one.

Don't have a pop, I'm just saying :) .

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You said you 'prefered' somthing. This is a thread about the rules of the photo comp...I didn't exactly make a massive assumption there.

Yeah, and you said you prefered things to be really obviously about the theme, which suggests...etc etc.

Anyway, the rest of your post pretty much says exactly what mine did. So, in conclusion, the example images are bad.

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Yeah, and you said you prefered things to be really obviously about the theme, which suggests...etc etc.

Anyway, the rest of your post pretty much says exactly what mine did. So, in conclusion, the example images are bad.

You're not worth argueing with. :P

Edit: for anyone else that reads this, i didn't say those things, he's talking shite.

No, not really :) .

I just thought that the Autumn theme is quite heavily associated with colour (for example) and excessive manipulation could swing a crap picture into a very relevant one.

Don't have a pop, I'm just saying :P .

Oops! Sorry i wasn't meaning too..

I just kinda ment if someone's played about in photoshop it's quite easy to spot so it's not that important that it's said because people will spot it if it's excessive..that's all.

But anyways i'm pretty sure minor photo tweaks are okay (levels etc) But i can't really remember..

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You're not worth argueing with. :)

Edit: for anyone else that reads this, i didn't say those things, he's talking shite.

I think you've got me wrong - my point was that you wrote something which you assume to be my opinion of the competition (even though i've written exactly the opposite) then write a post that was almost a word for word copy of mine as some kind of refute of my opiion of the competition. I was taking the piss.

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I do understand the need for rules and all, but surely if someone submits a photo that is not relevant, or has had excessive tweaking, they can be told so when they post it.

I find all this arguing quite off putting to be honest, and I can see why others would too. The competition is meant to be fun. It's nice to see peoples takes on the chosen subject. Perhaps if you feel a photo is not relevant you could ask for an explanation.

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I do understand the need for rules and all, but surely if someone submits a photo that is not relevant, or has had excessive tweaking, they can be told so when they post it.

I find all this arguing quite off putting to be honest, and I can see why others would too. The competition is meant to be fun. It's nice to see peoples takes on the chosen subject. Perhaps if you feel a photo is not relevant you could ask for an explanation.

I'm only annoyed because i think it's unfair. This is supposed to be fun.. If you've searched around all month for somthing which fits then you find that someone just entered somthing random then justified it with words then it's rather frustraiting.

I think if the photo needs a detailed explanation to validate it's entry then it's outwidth the theme and shouldn't be allowed in.

I'm not saying creative and abstract thinking should be outlawed.. But the things ought to be easily (ish) assioated with the competition by everyone

(i.e Para's 'Brain food' entry' = okay Tbb's teddy's = not okay)

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I don't know if this has already been suggested, but I was thinking that perhaps next year we could create a Rllmuk Calendar using the winner of each month's comp as the picture. Judging by the winners we've had so far it would look really cool.

We could maybe add in some choice quotes from forum members too?

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On a related note to above, I'd been thinking we could perhaps do an 'Rllmuk Photo Competition 2006' book (thought of it back in about August, then regularly since then, only to have it slip my mind when 2006 finally ended).

Sites such as Lulu.com would allow it to be printed on demand, and if we used a system along the lines of "including every picture to earn a vote" it woul clock in at around £20 a copy (as vague estimate). No one would buy it apart from us of course, but it would be cool to have ^_^

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Lulu books look awful, get someone with a Mac to use iPhoto's book function, I've been using it for ages and it gets stunning results. Similar pricing too...

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