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The Sopranos - Series 6

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Well, I for one am relieved. It was left open to be interpreted however way people want - and that's great as I was dreading actually seeing Tony get killed

I didn't get into this series until mid way through season four. But the benefit of that, was I was able to grab all the series and have marathon weekends watching back to back episodes, starting from the beginning. Wonderful stuff. So sad it's over.

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Silent Runner

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Great ending, I thought.

Soprano life goes on but we just won’t be around to see it. AJ and his problems, Meadows bf working on a case that might result in him looking into Tonys dealings, Carmellas property developer gig, the case being built against T and loads more little things.

If it had ended with Paulie sunning himself with the cat eyeing him up it would have been great but the restaurant scene was amazing. All the little tricks being played on us; the quick cutting between Meadow parking her car and the shifty fella at the counter, T looking worried every time the door opens and the long, black silence before the credits. My heart was going like a hammer the whole time, I was really glad T. didn’t get hit.

It’s hard to believe it’s over.

Salut.

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diggler

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Spoiler tags no more?

It definitely rewards repeated viewings doesn't it? The entire final 15 minutes or so is pure perfection in every way. Witnessing the various resolutions between Tony and those around him one by one, rounded off by that final scene...wow.

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womblingfree

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one way to look at it is this way below

tony was not the one getting popped it was us as the viewer how took a bullet to the head

Before you said that I thought it was pretty obvious that

T got whacked

. That's an excellent interpretation though.

Whether it was us or him doesn't really matter as the result's the same. It was a brilliant way to end.

Part of me hopes there's not a movie as it would take away from the final episode. Having said that I'm willing to put up with that for another 90 minutes, I mean the last few episodes have been brilliant and nothing's going to change that or the way we felt while we watched them.

In a way it's all set up for a movie. That last cut though. Just brilliant.

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Yeah, have to echo what's been said already, great ending, and so tense!

I felt this strong sense of foreboding even after Phil had gone and the last few minutes were almost unbearable, esp. when it kept cutting back to Meadow and the the door.

Watching it the second time, it doesn't seem to me like either is a potential shooter. Chase is just playing with us I guess.

The less literal interpretations work really well for me here, this ending didn't disappoint at all.

Really feel I'm going to miss this show, I remember when AJ was just a little kid and everything. I used to hate Tony and his crew for what they did but then I started to hate the writers for making me constantly sympathise with them. In the end I felt really bad to see Syl in hospital and Chris die the way he did, even though I wouldn't see them again anyway.

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hobo

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I can relate to this explanation which is similar to what has already been discussed:

From Slate:

http://www.slate.com/id/2163797/entry/2168249/nav/tap3/

Once again I find myself at odds with most everyone: I thought the finale, especially the very end of the ending, was brilliant—maybe the most harrowing three- to four-minute sequence in the history of the medium. I believe we witnessed the murder of Tony Soprano. The key clue comes from the penultimate episode, when Tony lies down to sleep in the safe house, his AK at his side, preparing for the possibility he may die that night. He then flashes back (to Episode 1 of this season) and Bobby Bacala saying to him, "You probably don't hear it when it happens."

And he didn't, did he?

Meadow's trouble parking makes sense—beautiful, tragic sense. She bursts in to see her father's murder as a tableau. This is in pointed contrast to A.J. and Carmela, who form part of that tableau—the blood and agony—while she, Meadow, stands apart. Chase is always telling us something: Meadow is the one family member who "gets it," i.e., who has cultivated enough of a life within mainstream culture to see her father's vocation for what it was.

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That was the immediate conclusion I came to as well, but after re-watching it a few times, I can't agree with that interpretation at all anymore.

I've re-watched that last scene a few times, looking for clues. The more I watch the more I believe the tension in the scene is serving its purpose by making us paranoid - like Tony. That's his life now, one threat firmly behind him, but the next is never far away. I also think Meadow's inability to parallel park was a depiction of her inability to fall into line with her family's wishes. Whereas AJ had no such problem because T and Carm were successful in bribing him to go along with their wishes, to fall into line. Maybe I'm reading too much into things there but I really don't think Tony was whacked, rather, as somebody else already said; life goes on for Tony, we just aren't there to see it anymore. We as the viewers, were whacked. You probably don't even see it coming, and I didn't.

Great end to a great show.

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Ork1927

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I'm

going back and forth on my interpretation of the ending. Was he whacked or not?? Either way the build up was excellent and personally, I like the fact that the screen just turned to black.

If that does indicate Tony has just had a bullet through the head that this was the best way to do it. If the series had finished with us seeing Tony get shot I'd have felt cheated as I would want to see the funeral and the wake, know who had done it and why, know who had okayed the hit, Paulie's reaction, Melfi's reaction, Arti's reaction and perhaps a sly smile from Uncle Junior when he got the news.

Excellent stuff and as much as I'll miss the series I hope that fade to black was the last we ever see of Tony and his families.

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womblingfree

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Did anyone see them use the Sopranos ending on the Daily Show to allude to an anti-climax?

This ending will be used endlessly for spoofs for the forseeable future.

Now where did I put my Best of Journey album?

EDIT:

Found the Journey album. Remember what the lyrics are?

"..the movie never ends it goes on and on and on and ooooooon".

Nice to think our fat fictional friend is doing the same.

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I've been reading some American forums and it looks like the final episode went down like a lead balloon (hence the Daily Show dig). What the fuck is wrong with those guys? Did they seriously not get it?

I think from the level of discussion they were expecting Scarface. Comment starts half way down:

http://www.tvseriesfinale.com/2007/03/the_...ast_episode.php

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hobo

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That was the immediate conclusion I came to as well, but after re-watching it a few times, I can't agree with that interpretation at all anymore.

I've re-watched that last scene a few times, looking for clues. The more I watch the more I believe the tension in the scene is serving its purpose by making us paranoid - like Tony. That's his life now, one threat firmly behind him, but the next is never far away. I also think Meadow's inability to parallel park was a depiction of her inability to fall into line with her family's wishes. Whereas AJ had no such problem because T and Carm were successful in bribing him to go along with their wishes, to fall into line. Maybe I'm reading too much into things there but I really don't think Tony was whacked, rather, as somebody else already said; life goes on for Tony, we just aren't there to see it anymore. We as the viewers, were whacked. You probably don't even see it coming, and I didn't.

Great end to a great show.

Having read all that, I have to agree!

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Can we drop the spoiler tags yet?

I have a question but it's probably nothing.

When the FBI man hears Phil Leotardo has been killed he says "Damn, we're going to win this thing" then smiles, looks at the other FBI man and then goes all series again. Any ideas what that line means?

From Wikipedia:

After hearing that Phil had been killed, Agent Harris yells, "We're gonna win this thing!". This is a reference to real-life former FBI supervisor, R. Lindley DeVecchio, who famously uttered the line when he was told Lorenzo "Larry" Lampasi, had been shot to death in front of his Brooklyn home. (DeVecchio was later charged for giving information to mob members, including the locations of mob enemies, another parallel to Agent Harris and Tony.)
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I have a question but it's probably nothing.

When the FBI man hears Phil Leotardo has been killed he says "Damn, we're going to win this thing" then smiles, looks at the other FBI man and then goes all series again. Any ideas what that line means?

I loved that bit. He goes into the whole project way back when determined to turn Tony. Only in that little scene it was Tony that had turned him, so to speak.

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