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I think the magazine anecdotes are naturally likely to decrease over time as they tell them all, but magazine culture and history is a fundimental part of the appeal to me. 

 

I'd never read PSM2 nor heard of Dan Dawkins prior to his appearance and I think it was one of the best episodes. Made me wish I could go back and be a bit broader in my reading, rather than just picking up Edge every month because I got super fucking snooty about games when I turned 20. 

 

Hoping they go a bit further back at some point and get someone in from N64 magazine. God, I fucking loved that thing. 

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Yeah, I enjoy the magazine anecdotes as well, even if I've only ever read Edge and Cube magazine back in the day, but I'm quite interested in the inner workings of gaming journalism anyway, so I find it interesting.

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If anything I want more magazine anecdotes. 
 

I’m quite pleased the The Back Page has opened the UK game journo scene up for me. The last few years have become so dominated by the (way more incestuous) North American crew and it will only get worse when EDGE magazine inevitably closes. I do enjoy their output, but I’m increasingly weary of the unabashed hype of Easy Allies, Keighley etc. not to mention all the ex-Gamespot, IGN employees that have all worked with one another multiple times and have each other on their podcasts constantly. I enjoyed something like Minnmax for a while, but the recent lacklustre not-e3s of covid times and the Ubisoft/Activision allegations really highlighted to me how much that scene softballs the industry. (It was so cathartic to hear TCGS fucking rip into them in a way I wasn’t hearing on my US podcasts)
 

Now thanks to Back Page I have people like Andy Kelly and Chris Schilling mixed in my timeline. Voices and perspectives that match a tone I identify and grew up with and who’s output I’ll be able to carry on enjoying in a post-EDGE/future landscape. 

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I found The Back Page because of this thread. It really is bloody brilliant. Especially as someone who grew up absorbing all the magazines (NOM, NGamer, CVG, Gamesmaster amongst others).

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8 hours ago, Sarlaccfood said:

but I’m increasingly weary of the unabashed hype of Easy Allies, Keighley etc.

 

Ubisoft/Activision allegations really highlighted to me how much that scene softballs the industry. (It was so cathartic to hear TCGS fucking rip into them in a way I wasn’t hearing on my US podcasts)

 

Easy Allies aren't ashamed of being excited by something (nobody should be) but that doesn't mean they're hyped about everything. They frequently criticise stuff, a lot of it heavily, and not just games. The latest example being their reaction to the Ubisoft and Blizzard stuff, where they did rip into it. I think this was their initial coverage of it.

 

The biggest thing that annoys me though is that they all do absolutely love Keighley. Presumably because they've all worked with him in the past, but I still don't get it. 

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21 hours ago, Garwoofoo said:

I wish they'd lay off the endless magazine anecdotes a bit though, it's like being trapped with a couple of pub bores endlessly talking shop. Two gaming gammons waffling on about the war.


As a counterpoint - and insurance in the event that Matthew and Samuel do see this thread - I LOVE the magazine anecdotes. A read a lot of magazines growing up, so I really enjoy these peeks behind the curtain. 
 

Perhaps if the anecdotes were the same two or three going round in a loop I’d agree with you Garwoofoo, but they’re not. I think it’s fun to wallow in a bit of nostalgia from time to time, plus they’re always entertaining. Matt’s anecdote about how they made a papier-mâché version of Mario Galaxy’s planets was properly funny, like milk-spraying-out-nostrils funny. 

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I Patreonised (patronised?) Duckfeed.tv this month for about £4, which is the name for Kole Ross and Gary Butterfield's podcast platform, i.e., the guys behind Bonfireside Chat and Watch Out for Fireballs. I'd been planning on doing it anyway as I really appreciated all the free episodes of BFSC and wanted to give them a bit of a tip, but as soon as you pony up you unlock masses of content. These guys actually do this as their career; one of the early goals on their Patreon was to get to a point where they could quit their jobs to podcast/stream full-time, and that's exactly what they've done. Sounds pretty good to me, though at the same time it would immediately turn playing games into work, so I suppose your relationship with them would change.

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Yeah the magazine anecdotes are part of the appeal, surely? It's called "The Back Page", with the description of the two hosts "talking about video games and their years covering them professionally". Wishing away the anecdotes is wishing away half the point.

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On 04/09/2021 at 12:03, Garwoofoo said:

I really really like The Back Page, it's the first podcast I've listened to regularly in years.

 

I wish they'd lay off the endless magazine anecdotes a bit though, it's like being trapped with a couple of pub bores endlessly talking shop. Two gaming gammons waffling on about the war.

 

As @Jamie John says, the whole scene is a bit incestuous. Whenever they have a guest on, it's always some mate of theirs, you know they're just going to swap stories about stuff that happened ten years ago on magazines I never read. I just skip the first 20 minutes and get down to the good stuff.

 

6 hours ago, Jolly said:

Great start to the latest episode of The Back Page for all you magazine anecdote fans. 

 

I think Garwoofoo owes them an apology. They'll never be able to escape being known as the Gaming Gammons now :lol:

 

But yes, surely the mag anecdotes are half the appeal of the podcast. It is what sets them apart from everyone else (and that they actually have a really interesting and variable podcast format and that they avoid waffling for half an hour about what they had for breakfast that day). Its one of the very few podcasts that I look forward to appearing in my feed every Friday. 

 

Would love them to have some N64 Magazine era guests on, I think for a lot of us that was the golden era of magazines. 

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47 minutes ago, McCoy said:

But yes, surely the mag anecdotes are half the appeal of the podcast. It is what sets them apart from everyone else (and that they actually have a really interesting and variable podcast format and that they avoid waffling for half an hour about what they had for breakfast that day). Its one of the very few podcasts that I look forward to appearing in my feed every Friday. 


without wanting to sound like I take these sort of comments personally (I genuinely don’t) but aren’t you doing the EXACT same thing here?

 

it’s the one comment I’ve never really understood. “They talk about non gaming stuff”. We do. Some people like that some people don’t. That’s the cool thing about podcasting, if you don’t there’s tons of alternatives out there.

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59 minutes ago, elmo said:


without wanting to sound like I take these sort of comments personally (I genuinely don’t) but aren’t you doing the EXACT same thing here?

 

it’s the one comment I’ve never really understood. “They talk about non gaming stuff”. We do. Some people like that some people don’t. That’s the cool thing about podcasting, if you don’t there’s tons of alternatives out there.

 

True. I think the difference is that the clue is in the name - they are going to talk about magazines and anecdotes. If there was a podcast called the 'what I had for breakfast this morning' then it would probably be churlish for me to complain they were talking about what they had for breakfast. 

 

On a general comment about podcasts, you're absolutely right there is no right or wrong way - lots of alternatives out there. I guess my view is that I listen to specific podcasts for specific reasons. I'm sure the guys who do my Formula 1 podcasts have fascinating lives outside of F1, but it isn't really why I listen to the podcast. Its horses for courses though, I'm equally sure there are lots of people who like the freeform chat segments. 

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22 minutes ago, Gambit said:

I always had it in my head that it was "Roll Muk". At least that's what I remember people calling it in those late night Xbox Live games of PGR2 and Forza! :lol:

 

Nah, that was just the name of the worst Halo 2 clan.

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16 minutes ago, Naysonymous said:

@elmo what is Chet Roivas up to these days?  He's got a way with words I really admire but he's all but disappeared from the internet as far as I can tell.   You are still in touch, right? 


just playing Dead by Daylight I think.

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9 minutes ago, Naysonymous said:

He’s given up on the public facing stuff then? I’ve long been waiting for the glorious return of My Week in Batters.  
 

Yeah he tapped out. Shame. His stuff was fantastic.

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In honour of this weeks Back Page Pod I decided to do my own Top 10 games of 2010. Feel free to ridicule my choice of number 10. :lol: 

 

Spoiler

1. Mass Effect 2

2. Super Street Fighter IV

3. Halo Reach

4. Bayonetta

5. Super Mario Galaxy 2

6. Mafia II

7. Assassins Creed Brotherhood

8. Pac-Man Championship Edition DX

9. Alan Wake

10. Comic Jumper

 

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