The Random WoW Thread

[csuzw]

I seem to generate too much threat atm. Due to being an AoE damage machine

At max level threat isn't much of an issue as you'll have properly geared and specced tanks. At lower levels you tend to group with tanks who are not specced or geared for it and they usually have a lot lower threat generation, especially AoE threat gen.

[Hexx]

At max level threat isn't much of an issue as you'll have properly geared and specced tanks. At lower levels you tend to group with tanks who are not specced or geared for it and they usually have a lot lower threat generation, especially AoE threat gen.

But it's mainly happening now, because I'm too awesome...right?

[fragglerock]

yep

/pat

[Hexx]

When can I access TBC content. Level 60, or a little before?

[csuzw]

58

[Sergeant Squid]

Don't worry about aggro when you're running with guild groups. I can go bonkers with dps, not even pay attention to threat and I've never pulled aggro off our pro tanks. One of the benefits of being in the Muk

[Hexx]

I'm never invited to guild groups.

I think it's because I'm black too awesome

[Moostapha]

Poor Hexx, you need to get to 80 matey. Then we can ignore you for no apparent reason instead of the level gap.

[Hexx]

I just to to 56...the list of dungeons I can be "LFG" for just exploded!

Shame no one's actually doing them though

[Jack]

No-one does them because the loot you get from heading into Outland is much, much better. The itemisation was proper pants-on-head stupid back in the day.

[reani_]

Shame no one's actually doing them though

I agree. maybe Blizz should introduce a level dependent loot, e.g. when you go to an "old" instance, as lvl 80, you get better gear (same as wrath level) than someone lvl 60 or 70.

Would make old instances more atractive...

[fragglerock]

yeh just grind up to 58 and get into space (man!)

[Hexx]

I agree. maybe Blizz should introduce a level dependent loot, e.g. when you go to an "old" instance, as lvl 80, you get better gear (same as wrath level) than someone lvl 60 or 70.

Would make old instances more atractive...

In CoH players could "exmplar" down to a lower level reducing powers accordingly - and instead of XP they'd make inf (gold) appropriate fo their level rather than xp.

It kept taskforces (instance equivalents) quite highly populated at all levels.

[Hexx]

If you think it's bad now Hexx, wait til you get to outland and discover there's nearly zero chance of getting a healer to get a run going. Plenty of (bad) DK tanks though, so that's something...

What why?

But Outland has nice solo quest chains...right?

[fragglerock]

You can solo right through the whole game now, but not if you want to get inside instances.

[sprite]

People are fucking stupid.

Yeah, let's all try Occulus for the first time at 3/4am and then not know how to use our fucking dragons.

Fucksake.

Edit: yes I'm stupid too, for agreeing to come along because I didn't want to miss my only chance in TWO FUCKING MONTHS to see the place.

Edit 2: Also love how the strat I recommend goes completely ignored, that's awesome too.

Edit 3: Guys, what drakes do you use?

[Mr Ben]

I actually got that place done finally the other day. I went a bronze drake along with another person. We alternated using the channelled beam thingy, and spammed the attack button otherwise while using the timestop when it was needed. When he goes see through, everyone goes right away from the orbs and whelps in as wide a circle as possible. Rinse repeat, then go left when he goes see through again. After that he should be almost dead.

Apparently they'd wiped before I got invited after whispering why I didnt get asked to go as I been trying to get groups for it for months etc.

We then 1 shot him

[cowfields]

I've done it with the no-reds achievement and the no-greens achievement. I just need to do the no bronze achievement. It's been good doing the achievements as I ended up learning a bit more how to best use the bronze droognans for dps.

If you go for the traditional tank / healer / dps dps dps then I don't really know how the tank works, nor the healer for that matter, but I assume it's a case of just using your moves in a logical way and reading tooltips.

As for dps, what I think worked was:

Bronze 1 channels, until 10 stacks.

Bronze 2 (and maybe 3) then use their first shock lance thingy when they see about 8 or 9 stacks. The idea is they do it with 10 but with lag and brain lag and travel time it'll be 10 when it hits.

They both then immediately start channeling as well. Then Bronze 1 uses a shock lance when he sees Bronze 2+3 channeling. When that has hit he channels again.

At this point Bronze 1 and 2 should use their shock lance and, again, immediately channel. If it goes perfect essentially you are alternating channels and shocklances on every GCD. You don't stand there waiting for channels, you cancel it as soon as you do it...however...No breaks in channels means the 10 stacks is pretty much maintained so you channel and then shock lance straight away....but you should at least wait until you see the 'other' drakes channeling so that there's never not a channel, else you will lose the stacks and thusly the damage.

Unless it's all perfect and you have some kind of announce on TS it'll start to mis-align a bit but by that time he does the banish/balls phase and you rinse and repaeat for the next phase.

I think green dragon killed whelps for us. Honestly our No-green attempt went better than a normal go. You can start with a time stop and with a 2 groups strategy you can do silly dps. In our no red attempt we would timestop in the banish phase, so that all the whelps had shockcharges and we'd finish them off then, mostly ignoring them in P1

That's what my understanding was anyway. We did it without too much wiping (like 3 or 4 goes before we 'got' the dps alternating) and I might have the tactic wrong and I was the faceroller bringing down the group but, yeah. Those amber drakes can be really powerful if the moves are used in a co-ordinated way.

[George Clooney]

If you think it's bad now Hexx, wait til you get to outland and discover there's nearly zero chance of getting a healer to get a run going. Plenty of (bad) DK tanks though, so that's something...

If they could give Dk's healing abilities that only worked between the levels of 60 and 70, there'd be no end of instance runs in outland going on. Seriously, i think I've seen about 2 non-DK characters in Outland since the patch.

In other news I got me a red core hound from MC today. I much prefer him to the green one, and I havent seen a single other person with one so far, which is pretty cool. Was actually a easier to do than I thought as well.

[cowfields]

I have one so nyer!

Not that I use him, I prefer my cat instead of the BOMBOMBOM

[George Clooney]

You aint on my server though are ya? So nyer to you too! Having said that, despite hardly being backwards in terms of progression (I've seen most of the stuff I can think of at some point on various people) I still haven't seen anyone on my server using the Chef title. Which i 2 days time I will also have, and you can bet your arse it'll be on display. Thats not to say no one else has it yet, they just aint showing it if they have.

And about the pet, I've been playing with a corehound for so long now that I dont think I'd like having to get used to something else. I tamed a spider from searing gorge as a disposable pet till I got to the core, and it just felt wrong. Now just to level the bastard from 75 to 80.

[The-G]

I'd have the goddamn Chef title if that bitch in Dalaran would give out the last cooking quest. TWO WEEKS NOW.

[cowfields]

Someone in our guild has the Chef title. It's 'easy' to get as in it doesn't really take much work it's just a bit subject to RNG.

Someone else in our guild has an alt DK called Bawls. He's levelling fishing. He's planning on doing all the fishing achievements

[PinkMoon]

Someone in our guild has the Chef title. It's 'easy' to get as in it doesn't really take much work it's just a bit subject to RNG.

Someone else in our guild has an alt DK called Bawls. He's levelling fishing. He's planning on doing all the fishing achievements

I saw a level 80 priest called Tucka the other day in Dalaran. He had the Leeeeeroy! title... which is either an awesome coincidence, an awesome bit of dedication to level all the way for a funny name, or £15 well spent.

Excellent.

[SimonC]

So I think my druid is gonna be a tree and I'm about to hit outland as feral. Should I respec to hybrid moonkin healer, or will that screw my dps too much for levelling? 31+/0/21 kinda build? Do I even need to go that deep into resto, maybe something like this (maybe more points in Furor and Intensity instead of going for Master Shapeshifter)? Or could I just keep up a healing set from quest rewards and do any healing as feral, which would then mean total flexibility for instances?

I did similar from 70-80, though with a few more talent points to play with. You should be fine to heal instances with a full dps balance spec if you collect a few items with spi/mp5 for better mana regen when you heal.

[George Clooney]

Someone in our guild has the Chef title. It's 'easy' to get as in it doesn't really take much work it's just a bit subject to RNG.

Someone else in our guild has an alt DK called Bawls. He's levelling fishing. He's planning on doing all the fishing achievements

Yeah, it used to be a bit of a pain getting 450 skill in cooking, which you needed to learn Fish Feasts, but that was because small/gigantic feasts (which were most likely to give skill ups) turned green at around 440 or something and you had to make LOADS to get there. Both are yellow all the way now, so its not so bad, but you still need to grind out a fair few mats. Getting the chocolate cake recipe was a ballache though, I think after months of doing the dailies every day, I got it the week before WotLK hit. Other than that its pretty straightforward to get.

I would like the fishing title, but to be honest the number of people who can get it are limited severely by needing to win the Stranglethorne Vale fishing contest. So really you can only get a max of 52 "Salty"s a year on a sever, and thats assuming someone doesnt get greedy and try and win it a few times for some of the other rewards. And assuming they can do the other achievements as well, some of which are a right pain. Come to think of it, haven't seen anyone with the salty title either.....

[weeksjh]

I just got the Chef title this week. No chance of Salty though, as I have no Magical Crawdad.

[George Clooney]

I just got the Chef title this week. No chance of Salty though, as I have no Magical Crawdad.

Thats another part which is a bastard to get, though the fishing spots are less heavily farmed now as the food buff is no longer the best.

In other news, continuing my adventures in dungeons, my friend asked if I wanted to do an heroic last night. He wasnt bothered which, and to be honest neither was I. We were the only people on that we knew, so it meant going the dreaded pug route, but we want the emblems for some gear (we are both nearly at the 40 we need for the belts) so we thought sod it. We put a call out saying tank (him) and hunter (me) looking for a group for any heroic, and if there were any healers wanting to go somewhere we would happily go where they wanted. Suprisingly, 2 replies came pretty quick! One from a druid wanting Draktharon Keep, and as we both had stuff from there we wanted, we went with him. Quickly got 2 more dps, another hunter and a lock. And off we went.

And to put it bluntly, it was horrible. We cleared the place, but with a fair few wipes along the way. Now some of them were my mates fault. Like wiping on the dino boss 2 times because he couldn't see the adds that came. Some were careless dps aoe-ing and not watching their threat. The 'lock in particular (who outgeared us all) I swear at times was hitting the tab button a few times and picking that target to dps. And then switching when he felt. But every wipe was blamed on my mate. Many arguments later we actually did finish it (and I swear if I'd been in with virtually any other group I'd done dungeons with we'd have cleared it with bugger all wipes - a couple on the dino boss maybe that the tank had problems with - as I've ran dungeons with him before with no threat issues, or very minor ones) and to make matters worse, before I could finish typing my parting shot which told them why they were all such cocks, they left. So the only one to get it was the tank. Which he found hilarious. Oh, and I died during the last boss, so I didnt even get the 2 achievements for doing it and doing it on heroic. I also got this which is pretty sweet. And another elder visited. So close to that now....

[cowfields]

Yeah, it used to be a bit of a pain getting 450 skill in cooking, which you needed to learn Fish Feasts, but that was because small/gigantic feasts (which were most likely to give skill ups) turned green at around 440 or something and you had to make LOADS to get there. Both are yellow all the way now, so its not so bad, but you still need to grind out a fair few mats. Getting the chocolate cake recipe was a ballache though, I think after months of doing the dailies every day, I got it the week before WotLK hit. Other than that its pretty straightforward to get.

I would like the fishing title, but to be honest the number of people who can get it are limited severely by needing to win the Stranglethorne Vale fishing contest. So really you can only get a max of 52 "Salty"s a year on a sever, and thats assuming someone doesnt get greedy and try and win it a few times for some of the other rewards. And assuming they can do the other achievements as well, some of which are a right pain. Come to think of it, haven't seen anyone with the salty title either.....

The reason I didn't find 450 cooking 'hard' was because I was regularly making green recipes for cooking, for raiding. So it's one of those things if you actively pursue it I guess it's hard but you end up getting a lot done just naturally in your day to day. I'll get it eventually, the chef title, but I'm not rushing it.

Too busy handing linen and silk and stuff in to get the goblins to talk to me again. Yeah, I know I'm a sucker. I realised to get the loremaster achievement the big missing quest hub was the new one in Dustwallow, which of course is a goblin town. It's actually not that much to hand in since it's the cheapest cloth but I think buying up so much linen in one go gave the AH-ers some ideas and I seem to have driven up linen prices to 2g for a stack of 20. grr.

[scruffycat]

Yeah, it used to be a bit of a pain getting 450 skill in cooking, which you needed to learn Fish Feasts, but that was because small/gigantic feasts (which were most likely to give skill ups) turned green at around 440 or something and you had to make LOADS to get there. Both are yellow all the way now, so its not so bad, but you still need to grind out a fair few mats. Getting the chocolate cake recipe was a ballache though, I think after months of doing the dailies every day, I got it the week before WotLK hit. Other than that its pretty straightforward to get.

I would like the fishing title, but to be honest the number of people who can get it are limited severely by needing to win the Stranglethorne Vale fishing contest. So really you can only get a max of 52 "Salty"s a year on a sever, and thats assuming someone doesnt get greedy and try and win it a few times for some of the other rewards. And assuming they can do the other achievements as well, some of which are a right pain. Come to think of it, haven't seen anyone with the salty title either.....

I agree with this. I have missed a few dalies so I have I think 9 recipies left to buy and make for the Chef title. I wasted a ton of spices trying to level up past 440 to little joy. I really glad they changed Small/Giant from green to yellow.

Fishing, I have one copper coin and, of course, the STV tourney to win for Salty. Not sure I'll ever see it.

I just got the Chef title this week. No chance of Salty though, as I have no Magical Crawdad.

Thought you of all people would have that one sewn up.