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@Riven - I actually commend you for the effort you’re going to on your channel but just a couple of things. 1) On your videos I can tell from days of old that some of the issues you’re reporting on are when you’re running 60hz on a switched Saturn rather than true NTSC. Genuine offer - if you want a Japanese Saturn for the purpose of the channel to show a true NTSC machine then I’ll donate you one for free. 2) Disagree if you want but it’s apparent to me that you weren’t around / involved back in the day this was all going on. You keep referring to how you worked in the game industry etc but all this seems new to you. Only just finding Importplayer etc. Only a few years ago you stated that having a 50/60hz switch on a UK Saturn ‘breaks’ something yet now you must surely understand it’s the clock speed. 3) If you’re planning to do the same comparisons with PS1 then please do it with a genuine NTSC machine. Again, I’ll donate one if you want. 4) If you want your PS2 looking at, or it transferring into an NTSC machine as it let me know as I’ve never seen nothing but 100% success on genuine MI. Hopefully you already know to turn off multi disc already. And finally, Just because someone disagrees with you or proves you wrong don’t start trying to be clever and getting personal. All I’ve stated is facts. Shit like that doesn’t bother me but with the mental health of a lot of people at the moment you really should be wiser with your words. Genuine offer about the consoles btw. @Sketch - I’m hoping to get spare time to play it this weekend, let’s keep tabs

@Riven - Haha thanks but if your advice on personal matters is anything like your advice on 50/60HZ and optimisation I’d rather not thanks! I just don’t like people being misadvised then potentially spending money on certain setups and configurations for something that was dead and buried back in the 90’s when in reality it’s just not correct. For someone who built his YouTube channel up based on how terrible these things are you’re the last person I’d be expecting to have to point facts out to but it is what it is. You seem convinced that you’re magically going to stumble onto something in 2020 that was missed in the late 90’s by people heavily involved in the scene and good luck with that. For all others, @Sketch summed it up perfectly with his analogy.

@Riven. - Don’t bother with the ass comment A genuine Matrix Infinity running 1.93 firmware has no issues with screen fixes on PS1 or PS2 like you’re talking about and also runs Internal Section perfectly fine. I know as I played it myself last year. If you’re experiencing issues like you describe where some games aren’t switching correctly then you’re either running a clone, a poor quality modbo or it’s a poor install which is resulting in chip timing being unstable. Edit - unless you’re using a revision of the slim that has issues with specific ps1 games but that’s a whole new kettle of fish

@Sketch - Forum post of the year that hahaha

Apparently the big announcement is due to hit later. bloody hope so

Just because a game is edited to allow a resolution compatible with PAL CRT’s (Don’t forget a large amount of PAL TV’s didn’t support NTSC back in the day) doesn’t mean it’s been been optimised. Of course then trying to force them back into NTSC is going to cause overscan. I don’t have the time to continue a discussion that discussed heavily in the 90’s but I will leave saying Using any form of swap disc like the Import Player Lite / Breaker Pro will force them into PAL60 not NTSC60. I’m sure you know the difference. They were intended primarily to be used as swap discs back into the day to bypass anti mod protection as to run them you already needed a modded machine in the first place. Or you had to do multiple disc swaps via the ‘disc swap technique’. If you want to continue playing with things like this head over to gamecopyworld as they’re all listed over there. Likewise if you’re really interested in pursuing it check the hex’s in patches and trainers by groups like Paradox. I know you’re aware of crystal timing because you’ve hinted at it before so all this forcing is irrelevant IMO. NTSC on PAL or PAL on NTSC will never be as it should be. The playing PS1 on PS2 issue you’re talking about is because you have an early mod like a messiah. Get something decent like a Crystal or MI and it’ll screen adjust properly for PS1. You can even force the core machine to run PAL60 or NTSC60 if you do wish. If you want a decent machine PM me.

This does seem to be a popular rumour elsewhere too. Would make sense to be honest seeing as there isn’t much following of the Xbox brand there. Probably being the Japanese are crazy intelligent so a rebadged MS console may not fool them if it does turn out to be true.

@Riven We will have to agree to disagree then because I stand by my statement. I think you're talking about part optimisation and I'm talking about full including speed. That being said, even if we're talking about part optimisation it still stands for PS1 IMO. Gen 5 PAL releases 3DO - Good luck Jaguar - Dreadful N64 - A few optimised but come on, even Nintendo themselves couldn't be bothered optimising their AAA titles. Waverace Comparison Mario 64 Comparison Mario Kart 64 Comparison Even later 'alledged' optimised released that had no borders were never actually optimised at all such as F-Zero X F-Zero X Comparison PS1 - Which is what this thread started about - 1/3 of PAL games optimised? No chance. The PAL PS1 library was terrible minus the titles you've said and the likes of Medievil and Wipeout. I'm not even going down the route of this with the PS1 because I don't feel the need to. By all means, do me a list to prove me wrong if you want but it honestly surprises me that someone with your knowledge would say this, unless again you're referring to part optimisation which was again a very rare thing for the PS1. Again, huge titles, final fantasy 7,8,9, Metal Gear Solid, Castlevania SOTN, Resident Evil 1,2,3, Even Gran Turismo 1 & 2 were awful compared to their counterparts. Saturn - Now I honestly am not trying to be rude but look down your own list again for Saturn Titles and just how many you've listed as 'Full PAL Optimised' https://randomisedgaming.tumblr.com/post/146372446412/the-complete-european-sega-saturn-60hz-guide-to For me the singular word 'Optimised' covers everything and whilst Sega did well catering for 1st party PAL releases on the whole the system was still rubbish for 50hz IMO. Your Youtube Review on the PAL version of Daytona was brilliant by the way. Link for those interested In my opinion the better option will always, 100% be to play the NTSC Versions of Gen 5 titles on NTSC machines because that's the way the developers intended them to be.

Agreed but it’s the PS1 we’re talking about here. Hardly any gen 5 games were optimised and the ones that were typically were developed in a PAL region in the first place such as Tomb Raider, GTA etc.

It's not a 'proper' pal conversion. It still runs in 50hz and despite being translated runs slower than it should. Anyway, the Trainer Patch here works fine - Just tested it out of curiosity because this entire thread has perked my interest on an Mayumi V4 PS1 with no issues. Straight to NTSC and screen centered - https://consolecopyworld.com/psx/psx_patches_c.shtml Or, if you have an Action Replay you can just use the master code listed here - https://gamehacking.org/?game=90573&hacker=all&format=gs If you're using PSIO though I'm unsure if they've got Action Replay / Gameshark codes working yet. I believe it was on a to do list. Youtube Review for those interested - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84LnOreaqTE

I’m going to watch this thread too. Thanks @stephen129 for taking the time to give such a response!

Have you done dual boot? Turn on with power = MS Dash Turn on with Eject. = Alternate Dash

I don't often venture into this thread but after looking at the last few pages my netflix list has suddenly grown and I'm quite excited for when the little one's gone down tonight. So for those that post, appreciated!

There already are unofficial batteries for the pad. Allegedly double the size but I suspect not. If there’s enough interest I can get some in?

Rocking it back and forth will be fine but if it’s already leaked it’s worth checking what damage it’s potentially already done. Make sure it’s not a v1.6 though