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Wooo she's back!

Stop whispering!!!

So now EA have a car in their conference.

Ubisoft will come out with a Renault, Sony with a Honda.

Meh....

Is the backstage audio there for everyone? I'm using gametrailers.com

Is that backstage audio?

its this guy again

Crimson Dragon looked fantastic,

yeah looks like they spent all the budget on the graphics.

Quantum Break is the only game that seems worth playing, and only because of the freaky Uncanny Valley faces.

They just had a trailer of Zoo Tycoon for the 360 and Bone, why didn't they show that? Way more fun than shooty war shooty.

GameTrailers showing the demo of Thief 4 on PS4.... they've won it already

That doesn't make up the difference. The UK and Europe are also much more fucked economically than the US, they're in danger of pricing themselves out at that price, I think.

Just "in danger"? They've well and truly priced themselves with an always checking in, not exactly amazing console.

The two free games a month are great, but it's for the 360. And I'm guessing they're only going to start with the "headliners" (though AC2 and Halo 3 are old, everyone'e bought them type games), before moving onto free Arcade games which are nice to have but no-one really wants.

Who cares about the launch date, you have to pay £429 in the UK to be treated like a criminal with 24 hour check ins. Sony didn't need to sabotage the conference with audio drop outs, they committed gaming world suicide.

the video lag is horrible!

cool

so what is the time then, 4 or 5.30 (as listed in the conference times thread)?

If you look at 50 seconds into the water level, the fish do NOT get out of the way.

Tomorrow is going to be glorious.

Or the end of console gaming as we know it

lol Martin from Sky getting in before Eddie

Booing Vettel, they love Fernando!

Eddie trying to butt into Kai interviewing!!!

And what was that about Bernie saying that Canada is "tired", WTF!!!!

Clare Williams on now, she sounds filthy hot!

Surely the developers who are on board aren't all faceless money men and still have a desire to create new games with new possibilities ?

I believe those developers you speak of are called indie developers. Who Microsoft just luurrvve

That pretty much nails it. You only have to look at the difference in people running the whole Xbox program from 360 era to now, to see how and why things have changed. Aside from Don Mattrick, I didn't recognise anyone from the Xbox unveil, but from what I've subsequently read, all of them come from a strictly business background, with no links to gaming.

this has been the case since Bill Gates left. No true "rebels" in senior management, all of them with their MBAs focusing on business. They are disconnected from the products they represent and their underlings make, I imagine every time a new product or service is finished and they have to sell it to the press they're just running it by the numbers, feeling no genuine passion or connection with the product they didn't make.

Same with Steve Jobs in a way. Since his death Apple have been shit and boring, whereas MS have just lost it.

I think that would be a last minute decision. If MS don't announce the price/release date, Sony will also leave it out.