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Across 2 games

Brighton - 44 shots on target 

Palace - 4 shots on target 

1-1 Draw

2-1 Win

Daylight robbery!

Fucking jokes....

1 minute ago, dr_manhattan^ said:

Spot on.

 

I really want Brighton to stay up because I like how they're developing and would like to see it continue.

Just now, Stopharage said:

I really want them to stay up as I'm down for 2 season tickets next year (despite being a Leicester fan)!

They're fucked now, we've brought Benteke on (when what we needed was the hard bastard McCarthy on in the midfield)

I hope Roy fucks off after this, watching this boring shite week after week really is making me (more) miserable. 

4 minutes ago, dr_manhattan^ said:

Brighton have been all over Palace.

 

Are Palace usually this defensive focussed? 

Hodgson has historically used a pretty effective tactic of absorbing pressure and counter attacking.

It doesn't work any more and he has no plan B, make note of the fact that he has made no changes at all, he thinks this is going ok...

Normal service resumes, Palace spend the first 10minutes continuing to do fuck all and Brighton equalise, was comnig a mile off and Brighton should feel agrieved to only be drawing.

Why Roy continues to want to play such negative game when our defence isn't as strong as it was, inviting teams to score (when we aren't scoring many,if any ourselves)

This game is only heading on way as Brighton continue press and ask serious questions. 

Cheeky as fuck finish by Mateta, Palace have done nothing all game and we are rewarded with a goal!

I don't want to buy a pass for the Palace v Brighton game, I don't, I don't, I don't (I will though for some fucking reason)

We are definitely losing this one and I'm not trying to reverse jinx it, we already had our lucky result against them with a draw when they completely domiated the game. 

I'm not sure Hodgson goes if we lose, but if we see a captulation/lack of effort like the last couple of games it would be very hard to see what the point of him staying is, we are probably safe but there is a small Fulham shaped cloud that just appeared off in the horizon.

1 minute ago, Dirty Harry Potter said:

i bought one of these kits based on this image!!! It was absolutely feckin lush...

 

the meat was soooooo much nicer than what I get from my local butcher.. really wish I could get just that (rather than the whole kit) but I suspect it’s exclusive to burger and beyond. But whatever they are doing it’s delicious. 
 

Also where do you get real American cheese in the UK? The cheese single packs are not the same atall - and again this burger and beyond kit had legit American cheese that was soooo much nicer. They must be sourcing it somewhere in the UK?

Coincidentally I bought another kit (as well as a kids kit) and we had it for lunch yesterday, as you say its the beef that makes all the difference.

Waitrose has American Jack cheese slices, which is closer than the packaged jobs, but still not as good.

They are quite a friendly bunch though, so I'm sure if you messaged them they'd point you in the right direction.

If you haven't set up an online account yet, if you are referring friends its worth it as you both get a 20% off code (they get there's straight away, you get one when they set up an account and order)

12 hours ago, Mike1812 said:

I'm assuming you're joking here but I know Leeds would make a mint. Leeds fans are very happy to spend money on this sort of thing. The shirts and merch sells out so quickly, it's crazy. 

But the gap issue is caused by the big clubs' ability to attracting their large numbers of casual fans and the neutrals, every EPL club has a hardcore fan base that will buy the match if they can't go, but the revenue from the vast amount of additional people who would buy a Liverpool game v West Brom against the amount who would pay for Leeds v West Brom means no matter how spend happy Leeds fans are you are not going to get the same money coming in and the financial gap further widens.

9 minutes ago, glb said:

I wonder if after a season and a half (or so) of 99% of games being on TV, there will be a move towards the option for virtual season tickets in the next distribution of rights.

Or maybe the option to PPV games will return once crowds do. Imagine it will be less glaring if turnstiles are turning again. Want to watch a game but can’t get a ticket? Watch for £15 or whatever clubs/broadcasters decide is the desired revenue to make their split make sense.

This would lead to a notable increase in gap between the 'big clubs' and the rest of us, imagine the extra revenue for the top 6 teams in any game versus the £7.50 each Palace and Burnley would split for their fixture.

Better product (perceived or actual) = more money is true for any market, but football feels like enough of an uneven playing field already, and the bigger picture of the overall long term sustainability of the entirety of football on England has to be considered.

24 minutes ago, DirkCrisis said:

As a Brighton fan I'm honestly not sure it's that cut and dried. It's a local derby so the rules seem to be that the in form team (which I think over the last 6 games has probably been us) somehow lose catastrophically. 

 

I kind of get Palace's current form. They always finish above us but also around mid-table. I don't think there's any danger of them going down given we're in another weird COVID season coupled with the performance of the bottom 3, so there might be a sense that the team has done enough, which I appreciate for fans isn't good enough.

 

It's probably just a case of having a target to work towards over a number of seasons. I assume Palace have that although I don't know.

I get where you are coming from and that may have been true in previous seasons, but It's very different this time as there's nothing there in terms of effort or bite, it feels like a team that has reached a natural dead end rather than one 'on the beach already'

12 players are  out of contract at the end of the season, why would they risk their livelihood over the next few weeks with no certainty, this all falls at the feet of the owners and Hodgson (to a lesser degree)

No Zaha for the derby game and it's not just my natral pessimism this time, I just cannot see us doing anything against you of note and really fear a big loss.  

To add, it's Brighton next Monday.

I think we lose regardless, but would rather Hodgson's tenure ended before/now whilst the fanbase still retains an appreciation for all he has done previously, rather than him completely lose the fans with a heavy defeat with no fight in us.

21 minutes ago, Adrock said:

 

The Hodgson interview tactic of saying not much and trying to drive straight down the middle is really bloody annoying, he did the same at Liverpool.

 

The danger, of course, is that Palace try to get another manager and end up getting relegated. Hodgson is pretty steady and usually he steers his team's to safety.

This is where we have a problem, the one thing you rely on with a Hodgson team is a rock solid defense that counter attacks, we now have conceded the 2nd most goals in the EPL, Hodgson got the arse when questioned on it and suggested the Liverpool game was distorting it (I'm sure if we discounted every teams worst result you'd come up with a similar poisition).

Our problem last season was not scoring many (2nd worst again),and whilst better it hasn't improved enough to offset the defensive collapse.

It's shit football to watch and isn't getting better, there  have been glaring issues (bad corners, poor passing completion %) for 4 seasons now that he still hasn't addressed and his aversion to making substitutes until the 70th minute no matter how bad the performance is baffling.

I don't think it would be rash to make a managerial change, we are in a position of needing a squad revamp in the summer and giving that to Hodgson feels like the worst option given his usage (or lack of) new/younger players, I think we go down next season if we keep him. 

1 hour ago, Adrock said:

 

Is Hodgson's time at the club coming to an end? They've been streaky in recent seasons but this feels a bit different.

I think so, even the most optimistic/rose tinted of the Palace fans on our main forum have switched over to the "Hodgson out" camp (Current vote 65 "In" to 536 "Out" when it's been much more 50/50 even up to a few weeks ago)

It's not the losses, we are used to losing, it's the manner of loss whereby we just roll over. Burnley going 2 up so quickly should have resulted in 80 minutes of us going at them but we end up being passive for most of the game and give away an atrocious 3rd in terms of defence.

Nobody knows why Milivojević is still favoured every game, he's weak and continues to give the ball away and pick up a stupid yellow lalmost every week, yet always is there as an ever present (a known Hodgson tactic tostick with his favourites no matter what)

Hodgson's continued inability to be explicit around how shit we are is aggravating see below tweet, and I don't mean it as a disrespectful comment against Burnley as they played well but we should be able to go toe to toe with them (losing 3-2 with a fighting performance rather than what we got).

Redknapp on Batshuayi's was both funny and accurate:

4 minutes ago, DirkCrisis said:

Don't worry! You're playing us next and I can pretty much guarantee that no matter how good our possession based football is, we'll fail to score and concede to a Benteke goal in the 89th minute.

 

TBF Burnley look like their on a bit of an uptick now so I'm glad we managed 1-1 at Turf Moor the other week. They were really decent in the second half.

The difference between Palace and Burnley today has been effort/commitment, loads of players not giving a fuck, I really can't see us putting up any fight against your lot.

I went to the Palace 5-0 at Selhurst (Andy Johnson hat-trick), I can see a reverse of that.

I can't see any way for Hodgson to continue as our manager, the performances are so wishy washy that you can't help but feel he has lost the dressing room, after a woeful first half and being 2-0 down he made no tactical changes or substitutions.

Even the most optimistic Palace fans have no answer to this performance, and when a manager who'se main strength is countering froma solid defence, having the second worst defensive record in the EPL is a huge red flag. 

20 minutes ago, Plissken said:

Anti-football!

 

 

Van Arnholt being taken out by the slight breeze of someone being near him was a contributing factor.

Palace can make any team look like  Barcelona at the moment, good job we don't have a big derby game coming up next...

I should have just wiped my arse with a tenner.

Fucking useless.

Hoping my NowTV stream holds up, what with all the neutrals interested in Palace v Burnley...

How can anyone resist a game between the two oldest squads in the EPL!

Palace have been abysmal the first half, playing a left back at left wing has gone about as well as can be expected in a team that creates fuck all to begin with.

Passing has been absolutely dreadful (it's always a cause for concern but especially bad tonight), and the players keep falling over on their arses.

Other than the 'meg' above Leeds haven't looked amazing and have chose to kindly pass up two gilt edged chances (one due to shit passing, one due to shit marking, both Milivojević) to leave it only 1-0

Burnley’s takeover looking like a financial shit show, Dyche not looking like he’ll get much cash for players.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/02/burnley-us-takeover-has-left-club-90m-worse-off-and-loaded-with-debt
 

1 minute ago, dr_manhattan^ said:

Proper good shot housing by palace though. Every time a player is down since the goal they’re holding their faces to get play stopped. 
 

Not a classic. 

I've genuinely not seen that (it's not a tactic we have utilised before), the only reason I can see that you are still losing is a couple of first class saves by Guaita.