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Robocop Remake - February 2014 - PG13 Rating Confirmed at ComicCon

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Another remake thread, eh?

This is where I step in and say give the film a chance befoe you slate etc.

But even I can't defend this one! Robocop is one of the few perfect movies in existence.

Stop motion? TOP motion more like!

The film is perfect, Ronny Cox's long arms and all.

I would love a sequel in the same vein as the original though.
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[quote name='Guybrush' date='Feb 25 2005, 11:54 PM'] I watched Robocop for the first time last week (3 second-hand videos for £3 in Blockbuster, folks), and that big fuck off robot jerking about, motion captured at 2 frames per second, is sheer hilarity. Nice irony, kid. What's your name? [/quote]
Freaking kids. If it was so badly done, why's it been mimicked by every movie up to and including I, Robot?
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"He's a sweet man, and he means well, [url="http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=19498"]but he's not going to go on forever[/url]".
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[quote name='linkster' date='Feb 26 2005, 01:58 AM']Freaking kids. If it was so badly done, why's it been mimicked by every movie up to and including I, Robot?[/quote]
[img]http://www.raffaello-network.com/item_images/Calsun295s-630t.jpg[/img]

Yeh, robots are meant to be jerky but, ffs, I'm sure I can see an animator's hand in one of the frames! Probably Rolf Harris', although I thought his work was above that.
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At the time though, it had to be some of the best stop motion work going. The first time I watched a making of, and actually saw that the scene where Robo blows up ED outside of OCP, and then walks into the building is almost entirely done in stop motion, I dropped. The way Robo walks into the building is so smooth, I still can't identify it clearly as stop motion today.
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ED 209 isn't just stop motion. He also uses 'GO-motion'.

Step away from the remake.

You have ten seconds to comply....
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Phill Tippet did ED-209 right? The man's a fucking legend. Also responsible for the AT-AT's, AT-ST's, Taun-Tauns, Wampa and Rancor in the Star Wars OT, some of the dino's in Jurassic Park and the bugs in Starship Troopers. Oh yeah, and the Reapers in Blade II.
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[quote name='Vemsie' date='Feb 26 2005, 10:39 AM'] Phill Tippet did ED-209 right? The man's a fucking legend. Also responsible for the AT-AT's, AT-ST's, Taun-Tauns, Wampa and Rancor in the Star Wars OT, some of the dino's in Jurassic Park and the bugs in Starship Troopers. Oh yeah, and the Reapers in Blade II. [/quote]
And don't forget, one of my personal favourites, the dragon in 'DragonSlayer'. Still the best movie dragon ever, if you ask me.
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[quote name='Alex W.' date='Feb 25 2005, 11:28 PM']Stop motion ED-209 is absolutely prefect. End of story.[/quote]
I agree. At first I liked CGI and what it could do, but now I prefer the old methods; they just feel more solid, more mechanical, and when you're talking about ED-209, that can only be a good thing. If nothing else, there's more artistry to appreciate. 90% of CGI leaves me underwehelmed. The Star Wars prequels look like nothing more than the modern equivalent of the old Saturday morning matinees Episode 4 was meant to render obsolete. Puppet Yoda still rules, even though it would have been next to impossible to do his fight in AOTC, which was quite a twattish thing to do, apart from getting a cheap laugh, anyway.

What, are they going to make a CGI ED-209 do? A tap dance? You don't need CGI robots. It would take away the essence of the machine.

As well as ED-209, Peter Weller was also perfect. I'm sure other actors could be perfect too, but all Weller's successors so far have just looked like someone in Robocop fancy dress. They didn't move right, they didn't act right, Weller did.

That's me done. Your move, creep.
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[quote name='Guybrush' date='Feb 26 2005, 04:44 AM'] [img]http://www.raffaello-network.com/item_images/Calsun295s-630t.jpg[/img]

Yeh, robots are meant to be jerky but, ffs, I'm sure I can see an animator's hand in one of the frames! Probably Rolf Harris', although I thought his work was above that. [/quote]
Bollocks. The jerkiness makes it scary.
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no no no - it MOVES menacingly enough, but are you seriously telling me that the way it looks on the screen couldn't be improved? it looks like a completely different resolution to what's happening around it at times.
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I think the stop motion could be improved loads with CGI, while the Stop motion is nice enough some of the scenes are far too jerky. I think a bit of CGI for walking scenes and large scale models for other scenes would work wonders.
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In theory, the stop-motion ED209 should look as unconvincing as a CGI one, as both effects are composited in afterwards, meaning there is nothing for the actors to react to. But it's the staccato, awkward motions that really give ED209 his menacing appeal. CGI is just too smooth, too perfect.

Also, you can bet that if they made it again today, they wouldn't use an in-camera model, instead putting in CGI version into every shot, and having it do 'cute' things like examine it's guns or waggle its toes, drawing attention to itself at every opportunity like the very worst extra.

Yes, it's very obvious when you're watching the stop-motion version of ED209, but it looks fucking great! I expect it to become THE hot military product for the next decade.
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[quote name='Vemsie' date='Feb 26 2005, 12:16 PM']I think everybody should stop mentioning the words Robocop and remake.[/quote]
It [i]might[/i] be fun to have it updated.

Attacker: 'There's more hair... down there!'

Robocop: 'Are you joking? In this day and age? Not bloody likely.'
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[quote name='Spunky Monkey' date='Feb 26 2005, 04:29 PM'] Ive just rewatched this again...because of you lot :D [/quote]
everyone give themselves a round of applause!
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[quote name='Duncan' date='Feb 26 2005, 05:46 PM'] everyone give themselves a round of applause! [/quote]
"Give the man a hand" :lol:
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[quote name='Pob' date='Feb 26 2005, 12:19 PM'] Yes, it's very obvious when you're watching the stop-motion version of ED209, but it looks fucking great! I expect it to become THE hot military product for the next decade. [/quote]
Perhaps with a full renovation program? Spare parts for 25 years? Who cares if it worked or not!
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Does anyone have that music from when he goes back to visit his old house and finds it deserted? I've got lots of action music, but not that one.
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