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#61 Badger

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 02:35 PM

Good read mate, it sounds like you had fun. Until the tv incident spoiled it at least.

What's their entry criteria? I could maybe be up for a bit more organised racing if they still accepting entries and I'm allowed in. How serious do they take the racing over there?

Also, I was having a nosey on their forum bit where you have to introduce yourself and say what speed your Internet connection, NAT, pad or wheel user etc and think I spotted yours on there saying you use the 3rd person chase-cam view? I just assumed everybody in serious stuff would be on cockpit or bonnet cam. You always use chase-cam?



Entry criteria is to sign up on the virtual motorsport forum and then enter yourself http://www.virtual-m...orts.com/forums and then post in the required sign-up thread.
The livery requirements are a bit of a pain, but once you're up and running it's not too much different - turn up at a time, run qualifying, then race. For most of their series you have to make a pitstop, but that's about it.

And I do tend to use chase cam - I play more in-car when I'm playing solo, but I find it hard to know where the other cars are without having a proper head-tracking 3+ monitor set-up, and I feel bad if I totally nerf someone... IIn-car + rear wheel drive only really works with a good feedback wheel to balance slides...
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#62 Dudley

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 08:39 PM

Why look we have here....

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#63 Badger

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 10:04 AM

Cool - and probably more appropriate for a Karting fan!
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#64 Dudley

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 10:16 AM

It's not unfamiliar to drive certainly :)
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#65 McSpeed

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 09:25 AM

Damnit, probably not going to make it once again :( Burried with work...
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#66 Boozy The Clown

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 02:59 PM

I hope you're getting paid the big bucks Joe.
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#67 morcs

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 05:12 PM

I don't - he gets to drive cars about for a living doesn't he?
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#68 RFT

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 03:27 PM

Everyone good for tomorrow/Monday?
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#69 Dudley

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:34 PM

Hell yeah.
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#70 McSpeed

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 06:12 PM

I hope you're getting paid the big bucks Joe.


I don't - he gets to drive cars about for a living doesn't he?


Sort of. Getting little bucks for that, though...

However I did get to participate (as a co-driver) in a rally sprint yesterday. In a Lamborghini Gallardo.

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Amazing to experience, obviously. Though racing you guys is equally fun and I look forward to returning to Forza. Soon, hopefully!
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#71 Boozy The Clown

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 08:02 PM

Morcs is right.....

Anyhoo I've put together a wee Lancia Stratos for tomorrow's race and I was running roughly 1:47 give or take half a second. Just wondering if that's competitive. I tried out Rich's Escort from the club garage and it was proving a fraction slower. What are you guys doing ? If I'm within 3 or 4 seconds I'll stick with the Lancia otherwise I'll need to try something else.
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#72 Dimahoo

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 08:12 PM

I should be on tomorrow night for my first race. I'm earlies so assuming nothing fucks up i'll see you there.
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#73 BalhamBadger

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:18 PM

I got a high 1:44 testing tonight. Think Badger G is doing 1:43s in his Golf according to the leaderboard.
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#74 BalhamBadger

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:59 AM

Oh and definitely in for tonight, and also for some ad-hoc racing afterwards.
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#75 Badger

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:46 PM

I got a high 1:44 testing tonight. Think Badger G is doing 1:43s in his Golf according to the leaderboard.


Sounds about right - I've only run a handful of laps with Pjeedai and Bladerunner, but I'm hoping for fairly consistent 43's... The main problem with the Golf is if we don't get a clear run through the corners, we can't get past on straights due to the speed difference.
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#76 wev

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:47 PM

Theres a clear seperation in how serious this is being taken. The ORDC lot seem to be taking it all very seriously, the RLLMUK Car Club members are just in it for the fun...
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#77 Meatball

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:03 PM

I think I might have to switch from my Silvia. I consider myself an ok driver, but I can't tune for shit and as decent as the Silvia feels to drive I just can't get it round fast and don't have a clue what to do to improve it -_-


Anyways, I made this replica paintjob a while back...

Just added my replica of this to the club garage.

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and chucked some upgrade parts at it the other day to get it up to spec for this series and it turned out to be quite nippy (though not especially nice to drive) so I might be out in that this eve instead.
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#78 Dudley

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:18 PM

I'm such a trend setter.
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#79 pjedi

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:41 PM

define seriously

ORDC prep = badger pesters me, i do a basic tune for stabilty, tweak and then save it.
If i catch BladeRunner or Badger on during the week we might have a little lap around a championship track and tweak.
Sometimes as per round 1 Badgers first outing in the car is qualifying

I like the tuning part and as long as I lap well for the tune I am happy. I love the dueling for a clean pass and I love lapping fast to catch a gap - often race lap will be faster than practice so the competition really makes the tuning worthwhile. Otherwise I only compete against myself

Generally it takes about 10 minutes to tune the basics and an hour to get it nice for 90% of tracks.
I use an old feuerdog base setting calculator from android market but I find the diffs a little off and the roll bars far too hard (but the right balance)

But I know the basic balance of FM3 pretty well and apart from a few tweaks to some cars and the amount of effect ARB and springs have most of the time the tune I save in first out of my head is pretty close to the ones the various sheets recommend - i tend to run a little stiffer than they suggest and use a fair amount of off throttle oversteer on the rear differential which helps me hit apexes albeit at the cost of a little speed. but the consequence as you may have seen is that hitting some kerbs can be disproportionately serious. So no tune is perfect for everyone. I cant drive most of badgers tunes but he laps as fast as me when driving a shitbag so cojones seem to be >= tuning (at least at my level). And seeing as people who say they cant tune appear to be able to ride far worse set ups and kick my ass I need all my tuning skill to make up for balls out racing.

Less time is spent tuning if you don't have the race gearbox because then you only need to tune final drive for the worst corner and dont need to back to back time test different gear options as much. There is a tuner calculator in the Forzamotorsports forums which is good for base tunes but has a really good gearing calculator - that saves a mahoosive amount of track time but may not be to everyones taste.

Some say its cheating to use spreadsheets but I built my own for Gran Turismo and FM2 and FM3 so I reckon I didnt slack on effort. but the rate at which the community develop theirs was simply outpacing the time I could spend so I appraise whats out there and use and adapt bits from each

The day job is Excel and analysis so it fits nicely with skills i need to keep on top of anyway

They arent a magic bullet but if they give you a stable platform you can feel what might need tweaking and adjust to suit your style/preference

But the time spent in tune shoppes means that unpestered Paintwork would be plain white with the Imperial symbol i have.
Then I can waste hours reminding myself how badly I know my way around the paintshop
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#80 Boozy The Clown

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:51 PM

Thanks to some real life car troubles I might be late or a no show. If I'm not on Live for 8.30 start without me.


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#81 wev

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:53 PM

You have an android ap, use Excel and built your own spreadsheets, that seriously. I'm not saying I don't, but I pretty much tune the car until it handles how I like and then just roll up.

I'm not suggesting in anyway that "you're doing it wrong", you're playing the game the way you enjoy it, I'm playing it the way I enjoy it and I think both methods suit each other, I mean, our little battle was good fun last week, our cars were fairly evenly matched (FWIW, I pretty much just use Suzuka and Fujimi Kaido when setting up my cars) and our driving ability seemed kind of close too.
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#82 Blade Runner

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 08:08 PM

If I can inject a comment in here about the tuning program. Jedi and I tried turing a car with his spreedsheet from andriod. And you know what? I was slower..... a lot slower. The tune that worked for me was the one that I just spent my own time workng on. It fit my driving style much better than any program could for me. and as far as gear ratio is concerned. I dont care if my tune blows the motor up or is at 35% damage at the end of the race. I am not paying for the motor. (that must be my F1 brain talking).I guess what I am saying is that to each his own. Just enjoy the game and LET RACE!
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#83 Dudley

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 08:29 PM

I add parts that seem right until I get to the right PI and then I race it. :)
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#84 BalhamBadger

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:21 PM

Sorry about the incidents. That's two people's races I spoiled, so annoyed with myself. I'm usually pretty clean, don't know what's gone wrong tonight.
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#85 Dudley

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:25 PM

I actually survived to 8th, so the only place you cost me was to Rich and tbh you'd have passed me to take that place if you hadn't analy violated me anyway.
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#86 wev

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:27 PM

I need to pile some acceleration into my car!
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#87 Blade Runner

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 10:51 PM

Due to recent events of the last few races. I found a few sponcers. So I can finally paint my Lancia. I cant gurantee that it wont rust again but we will see.
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#88 Badger

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 12:09 AM

Due to recent events of the last few races. I found a few sponcers. So I can finally paint my Lancia. I cant gurantee that it wont rust again but we will see.


Hope one of them is onlineracedriver.com - logo is on Meerman's storefront :)
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#89 Meatball

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:12 AM

I'm such a trend setter.


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I should've gone with it from the start really, but went with the Silvia as it was a nicer drive.

Tonights races went very good for me, qualified on pole then in race one I got a good start and pulled a small gap from Blade who unfortunately caught the wall going through the final chicane on the third or fourth lap, damaging his car and dropping a couple of positions. Now I had Badger a few seconds behind me and I had a quiet lonely race to the finish from there.

Race two I started off a bit scrappy, struggling on cold tyres and missing a few apexes which let Blade slip through into the lead a little easier than it should've been. Then coming out of the final turn I ran a bit wide and got a couple of wheels into the gravel, slowing me down and losing a lot of speed down the start / finish straight, letting Badger move through to second place. We had a nice battle for a couple of laps, swapping places numerous times until I managed to get ahead and use the slightly better accelleration of my Renault to pull a little gap and stay ahead. Now with a clear track I managed to put in a few fast laps to the end, but wasn't able to make much of a dent in Blade's lead that he'd built up whilst Badger and myself were battling and he had a comfortable win.


I've had a watch of the replay of race two and it looks like there was some great battles going on throughout the field. I might try and see if I can do a highlights vid of some of it.
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#90 Dimahoo

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 06:12 AM

My wife rang during the second race but the car needs work.
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