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I just noticed he said his son is betrothed to his niece. That's why he can't declare war.

Check you actually have a claim (betrothals won't give you a claim) and then break the betrothal. Then get murdering, although if you only have 550 men I would save up for some mercenaries. Your main problem is going to be having enough troops to actually siege the province.
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[quote name='Raane' timestamp='1329866742' post='8455744']
How do holy wars work? If someone declares on can i actually profit from going there? I put my balls on the line to take a chunk of sardinia but then Emperor Salian took the whole lot.
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Well you pissed off Salian then, because Holy War peaces are this:All unoccupied or captured holdings go to -starter of Holy War-. So anything YOU (or anybody who's not the war starter or allied... oh wait you were allied, weren't you?) captured stays with the original people, and anything he captured or anything that wasn't captured (in whatever de jure duchy he declared for) goes to him.If you actually want to profit you'll have to declare your own Holy War. If the HRE has also declared it's a safe bet you'll win, but you'll have to get in sharpish to have control over any sieges. You also might want to consider how horrific it's going to be to hold a Muslim North African-cultured province a thousand miles from your home provinces.Edit: okay fucking SERIOUSLY the edit functionality is AWFUL now. I can't add newlines without fucking doing my own HTML!
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Getting very frustrated with wales. Just can't get a claim on anything, had my chancellor sat in place for about 20 years and narry a peep of a claim. I don't have enough military power to actually do anything in crusades, i just seem to be sat around waiting for folks to die.

OK, let me get this straight:
for the purposes of marriage:
Male family members you should marry to places you'd like a claim in?
Female family members are almost useless to point of being liability spreading claims on your stuff about like a regal STD?
If my nephew marries a princess and they have kids they will inherit the claim when their mother kicks the bucket or when the existing ruler dies?
Family relations mean nothing unless they are traced on the male line?
Children belong to the de jure holding rather than the mother?

It's not possible to gain land in a holy war without starting it or being a vassal of the leader who declared?
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You can't gain land in any war unless you have a claim to press - holy wars let you stake a claim on specific areas when you declare them. Only the independent realm that declared it can expand in a holy war.

Female family members can be married off to gain alliances with places.
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So when the german HRE invited me to a summer of fun and frolics in the med they already had their towels down and all my guys would do is get into pointless scuffles with the natives and probably come home with a bloody nose and heatstroke. The HRE however gets a bloody timeshare villa.

Both the HRE and the french can fuck right off then with their poxy little wars.

Amirite in thinking that Crusades are basically like open quests which the pope sends out. You do it, you get a reward? Do you have to declare on the owner of said territory or just turn up on his doorstep and batter his county into submission?

Care to share pointers on getting well placed claims?
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Pretty much. :D With these holy wars I don't even bother to send troops - if it's a crusade I've been invited to, I send my nobles so they get the Crusader bonus, then just fuck off home really. Unless there's a chance I can actually influence the war - as Wales, there isn't a chance.
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Right, to get a well placed claim can i have my brothers marry likely lasses or will only my lineage fruit good claims?

Sorry if i'm seeming a bit slow, its my first delving into this sort of thing.
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So I've risen from the Count of Vexin, to become the King of France and Aragon. I have to say being a King seems a lot of hassle compared to being a Duke.

I was getting more money as a Duke (I was a mega rich duke) and everyone loved me pretty much. I was also best buddies with the King of France up until I suggested to him one night that he ought to try out elective rule.. of course he was only 6 so he figured I knew what I was talking about and went along with it. He even voted for me as the next king as I was doing such a wonderful job as his Regent. Sadly tragedy struck and he died shortly after casting his vote. I believe natural causes....

King is a hassle though. Lots more provinces to watch and revolts and dukes getting uppity and what not. I feel considerably less in control than I did.

One thing I can't work out is how to create a Title when I've closed the popup for it? I went on a bit of a conquering spree and got the option to create the Kingdom of Aragon, but I wasn't sure if being King of two places was greedy or not so closed the popup while I was thinking about it. Then found it impossible to find anyway to get to create the title. In the end I just quicksaved and then reloaded so the popup returned. There must be a proper way to do it though?
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You can, for instance, click on a province in the de jure region of that title. In the county view, there will be two shields, one telling you the de jure duchy and one telling you the de jure kingdom.

In this case you would click on the shield of the de jure kingdom, which would bring you to the breakdown of that title. There's a lot of ways of getting to that screen, but basically you can click on any shield and it will show you what makes up that title. It will also show you the current setup it is under (in this case its subsidiary counties and duchies, and the empire it is under if any), and will show the de jure setup if you tick that box.
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Won my first war against the Emperor - got what I wanted and went back to being a butter-wouldn't-melt vassal. A hundred more years of quiet plotting and loud murdering of Muslims and I'll be de facto Emperor; all the power of the Empire, none of the rebelling Dukes to manage.

Unfortunately for this 'hundred years of plotting' plan, this is 1198 and there just might be hundreds of thousands of men on small horses a short distance away.
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Out of interest (of no relevance to my game as the wannabe King of Sicily) if you hold multiple King titles, can you declare yourself an emperor even if you're not in control of any de jure empires? Therefore allowing you to make a vassal King. I suspect not, but you never know.

Last night I got sucked into this for hours AGAIN. After divorcing my first wife in hopes of having a son with wife number two, she simply had two more daughters and then started to get old. I now had six daughters and no sons. So I divorced her and finally wife number three bore me some sons. By this point, though, my eldest daughter had come of age... and had average stats, as well as being clubfooted. So I decided to have her bumped off so that her sister would be my heir - she has great attributes, and I was resigned to having a female heir. All went well, except my involvement was identified and I was branded Kinslayer. In addition to everyone thinking I'm a tyrant, and not liking the fact I'm a possessed hunchback, people are naturally not fond of me. Some powerful vassals decided to demand Elective succession, which I had no choice but to give into as I had no real way of winning a civil war with them. They promptly elected the Count of Lecce (not part of my dynasty) as my heir.

Solution? Capture lands from the Emir who holds the Island of Sicily proper, as well as Salerno and Malta, and hand those titles out to unlanded courtiers who like me, diluting the power of the nobles opposed to me. This worked great, and now everyone seems to love me and my awesome daughter. To top it off, the Count of Lecce was killed in battle. Succession secured, for now.

Then the goddamn King of Norway (my sister's husband) asks me to join his war with Sweden. I sail over there and my army gets absolutely torn to shreds by a Swedish army 5 times the size of our combined Norwegian-Apulian force, and I am captured. So now my 18 year old daughter is my regent. I probably won't ransom myself out, as she's actually better than my current Duke. Just need to take that last territory on Sicily at some point.
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No, the only two empires in the game are the HRE and Byzantium. A lot of the mods already out have added loads more de jure empires and kingdoms, so that France is an Empire, for instance, made up of separate kingdoms like Occitania and France and Burgundy.
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Definitely going to check out some mods at some point, the potential for interesting stuff is pretty good.
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Right, i think it's clicking. Started again as duke of munster, expanded to take the de jure duchy, then managed to get a pair of really swift fabricated claims (luckily i had enough oomph to take them) and too connaught and ossory. Used invited claims to take a load more.

If one of your court has claims on a duchy and you press it and win, he's not your vassal?
So dukes can't be vassals of dukes?
Because i pressed the claim on an invited coutier for the duchy of leinster and won. Now we're best buddies, i'm assuming that if ever i become the king of ireland (which i entirely plan to) he'll willingly vassalize (if either of us haven't died yet...)
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He's your vassal if he's your de jure vassal: you press the claim of someone for The Duchy of Aquitaine as the King of France, for example.

He's also your vassal if he is of your dynasty.

But you can't have a vassal of the same rank as you; in that case he'll be independent regardless.

Ireland's a good place to start out - pretty easy unification. Slight problem about where to go then, mind - my conquest of Scotland just brought me endless pain.
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I've just managed to scrape together the cash for the kingship, everyone folded except the former duke of lenister who i was saying about. I've still got a bloody ceasefire on him from years ago. It runs out in 1095. Now if my old coot king can just survive to the ripe age of 68 he'll have united ireland entirely in his lifetime. Might start transferring the duchy of munster to my son in preparation for an inopportune death.
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[quote name='Schnibbles' timestamp='1330028020' post='8459952']
He's also your vassal if he is of your dynasty.
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I don't think this is true - if you're a duke, you can't have dukes as vassals ever.
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Exactly right, it's why gavelkind is a particular pain if you hold multiple duchies, but are not a king.
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Or multiple counties, but aren't a duke. Or multiple kingdoms, but aren't an emperor. Exactly the same thing.

Gavelkind is probably pretty great otherwise though, the permanent 'same dynasty' relations boost can only help (plus that +30 bonus from gavelkind itself).
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Woah, Giant Bomb have done a quick look* of it [url="http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-crusader-kings-ii/17-5721/"]http://www.giantbomb...ngs-ii/17-5721/[/url]

* It's an hour and eleven minutes long, ha.
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Definitely going to grab this, sounds ace. I was about to dive into HOI for the nth time to try and get decent at it, but this sounds much more up my street. Can't sleep so am downloading the demo now....
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[quote name='Rudi von Starnberg' timestamp='1330034530' post='8460181']
I don't think this is true - if you're a duke, you can't have dukes as vassals ever.
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That's what my next sentence says!
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Great 'Wot I Think' about CK II on RPS. [url="http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/02/23/wot-i-think-crusader-kings-ii/#more-95722"]http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/02/23/wot-i-think-crusader-kings-ii/#more-95722[/url]

[quote]

[color=#1D1D1D][font=Arial, sans-serif][left]If you’re not terrified of maps then you can play and enjoy Crusader Kings II. It’s that simple. Do you like pondering alternate histories and creating grand narratives? That’s what this game is about. Do you enjoy courtly interplay and elaborate plots of succession, marriage and murder? That’s also what this game is about.[/left][/font][/color]
[color=#1D1D1D][font=Arial, sans-serif][left]Heck, do you like A Game of Thrones? This is the best Game of Thrones game you will probably ever play, unless you really need the fantasy element and if you do, then for God’s sake just pretend that pagans are riding wolves and French people have six eyes or whatever it is you need to do, but play this game. There’s incest and intrigue aplenty and isn’t that what GRRARGH Martin is really all about?[/quote]

Spot on![/left][/font][/color]
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And a GiantBomb [url=http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-crusader-kings-ii/17-5721/]Quick Look[/url] which is over an hour long. Just starting to watch it now, pretty entertaining so far. :P
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