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He bought Barry Island with it apparently and is turning it into a revelation space theme park :hat:
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[quote name='Hoop version, too' post='6037397' date='Apr 26 2009, 08:47 PM']Read Iain M. Banks' 'Excessions' for all of your space opera needs.[/quote]


Yes.

[img]http://homepage.mac.com/jrsanderson/images/banks.jpg[/img]

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[quote name='carlito' post='6071759' date='May 11 2009, 09:27 AM']Has anyone got anything they can recommend which is similar to the Banks culture novels? Or are they pretty much unique?[/quote]

I've been getting into Neil Asher's Polity/Agent Cormac yarns, recently.

Not quite in the same league, and heavily - um - influenced by Banks' novels, I found them a decent enough pulp-ish read. Plenty of action.

Let's see what you have . . . a sprawling human galactic society called The Polity; run mainly by planetary AIs, with ship-based AIs acting as eccentric minor characters, or borderline psychotic characters in the case the more non-comformist combat droids; much of the action centres around special agents of the Polity.

Nope, nothing like The Culture novels.

To be fair, there are enough original touches to keep it interesting, but if you like Culture space, you'll find similarities here.
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[quote name='unspec' post='6434819' date='Sep 22 2009, 08:15 PM']Yes.

[img]http://homepage.mac.com/jrsanderson/images/banks.jpg[/img]

:facepalm:[/quote]

Bastard.
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[quote name='Talvalin' post='6377146' date='Sep 2 2009, 04:26 PM']:facepalm:

You didn't mind the fact that Simmons undermined everything he'd set up in the previous two books for an overly long SF travelogue and slightly disturbing romance?[/quote]

Nope. It's been over a decade since I read them, but I didn't mind the length or the romance. And to be honest I don't see how he undermined anything from the first two books. Things have changed, but since it's set three centuries after the first two, and the farcasters don't work any more, it seemed a plausible sequel to me.
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[quote name='Area' post='6373302' date='Sep 1 2009, 03:14 PM']Just started on this after reading his more recent "Dreaming Void" and...the next one (name escapes me. something Void). They are amazingly technical and vast in scope. Was hooked on Banks' Culture novels as the ultimate futuristic vision but Hamilton is a lot grittier and 'believable'. Read Dreaming Void and immediately ordered his entire back catalogue I was that impressed.[/quote]

I find reynolds slightly strange, while the books are often nasty and have elements of horror, they're also very much romps. At various times I imagined the indiana jones music coming in over the top.
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I've read pretty much all of the Culture novels, and I'm still waiting on Hamilton's final Void installment. Apparently it's been finished, but it's being published in September or something equally fucking stupid. I wanna read it now, for fuck's sake.

I need someone to recommend me a decent series, or universe to immerse myself in. I hate reading a good book without any continuation. I've read all the Rama series, too.
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[quote name='fasteasyfree' post='6830273' date='Feb 22 2010, 10:45 PM']I've read pretty much all of the Culture novels, and I'm still waiting on Hamilton's final Void installment. Apparently it's been finished, but it's being published in September or something equally fucking stupid. I wanna read it now, for fuck's sake.

I need someone to recommend me a decent series, or universe to immerse myself in. I hate reading a good book without any continuation. I've read all the Rama series, too.[/quote]
Have you tried the Uplift Series by David Brin? I read the books years ago but I remember liking them at the time. They're a set of two trilogies set in a sci-fi universe in which no sentient space-faring race has ever evolved from scratch, they've always been uplifted by an older race. Then onto the scene comes the human race kicking up a fuss with no uplifter parent to vouch for them. The first book is Sundiver, why not check it out?
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[quote name='fasteasyfree' post='6830273' date='Feb 22 2010, 10:45 PM']I've read pretty much all of the Culture novels, and I'm still waiting on Hamilton's final Void installment. Apparently it's been finished, but it's being published in September or something equally fucking stupid. I wanna read it now, for fuck's sake.

I need someone to recommend me a decent series, or universe to immerse myself in. I hate reading a good book without any continuation. I've read all the Rama series, too.[/quote]

Read any Alistair Reynolds? He's at least as good as Hamilton if not better IMO.
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[quote name='Headache' post='6830290' date='Feb 22 2010, 10:55 PM']Have you tried the Uplift Series by David Brin? I read the books years ago but I remember liking them at the time. They're a set of two trilogies set in a sci-fi universe in which no sentient space-faring race has ever evolved from scratch, they've always been uplifted by an older race. Then onto the scene comes the human race kicking up a fuss with no uplifter parent to vouch for them. The first book is Sundiver, why not check it out?[/quote]

I may just do that. Sounds pretty interesting, cheers for that!

[quote name='cassidy' post='6830810' date='Feb 23 2010, 09:38 AM']Read any Alistair Reynolds? He's at least as good as Hamilton if not better IMO.[/quote]

I think I may have, but I'm not entirely sure. I'll add him to my list.

[quote name='Hoop version too' post='6830893' date='Feb 23 2010, 10:20 AM']Read the first three foundation books.[/quote]

I've just started on 'prelude to foundation' after reading back over this thread. At least I think it's the first book. It's awfully confusing as he's released so many different ones over a large period of time!
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Just stick with the original three:

[quote]The first four stories were collected, along with a new story taking place before the others, in a single volume published by Gnome Press in 1951 as Foundation. The remainder of the stories were published in pairs as Foundation and Empire (1952) and Second Foundation (1953), resulting in the "Foundation Trilogy", as the series was known for decades.[citation needed][/quote]

Oh god that's so confusing what the fuck.

There are three really good Foundation books. God knows which ones they are!
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[quote name='Hoop version too' post='6833073' date='Feb 23 2010, 10:48 PM']Oh god that's so confusing what the fuck.

There are three really good Foundation books. God knows which ones they are![/quote]
From memory they are Foundation, Foundation and Empire and Second Foundation. I did manage to read Foundation's Edge but drew to a grinding halt midway through Foundation and Earth, I tried diving back in a couple of times by it was just too tedious to read. The first three are great though! Check 'em out. (Finding this out has made me realise I'm missing my copy of Second Foundation too, damnit.)
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[quote name='fasteasyfree' post='6833067' date='Feb 23 2010, 10:46 PM']I may just do that. Sounds pretty interesting, cheers for that![/quote]

Bear in mind that Sundiver is rubbish, and is nothing like the other books in the series. If you’re getting started with David Brin, I would recommend beginning with ‘Startide Rising’, which is the second book in the series, and is basically space opera with the fast-forward button sellotaped down.

The Uplift books come in two series, the first trilogy (Sundiver, Startide Rising, and The Uplift War) and the Uplift Storm Trilogy (Brightness Reef, Infinity’s Shore, and Heaven’s Reach). The first set isn’t really a trilogy, as the books are standalone and only make slight references to one another; the latter two are epic adventures, whereas Sundiver was the author’s first published novel and is a rather dull and implausible murder mystery.
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[quote name='fasteasyfree' post='6833067' date='Feb 23 2010, 10:46 PM']I've just started on 'prelude to foundation' after reading back over this thread. At least I think it's the first book. It's awfully confusing as he's released so many different ones over a large period of time![/quote]

:) :D :o EEK! NO!

Don't read Prelude first! It is the last book, although it is based before all of them and contains MASSIVE spoilers!!

Stop reading it immediately and go get Foundation. That is the right and proper place to start....
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[quote name='K' post='6834037' date='Feb 24 2010, 11:58 AM']I would recommend beginning with ‘Startide Rising’, which is the second book in the series, and is basically space opera with the fast-forward button sellotaped down.[/quote]

Yeah, 'Startide' was the first I read and was great fun.
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[quote name='K' post='6834037' date='Feb 24 2010, 11:58 AM']Bear in mind that Sundiver is rubbish, and is nothing like the other books in the series. If you’re getting started with David Brin, I would recommend beginning with ‘Startide Rising’, which is the second book in the series, and is basically space opera with the fast-forward button sellotaped down.

The Uplift books come in two series, the first trilogy (Sundiver, Startide Rising, and The Uplift War) and the Uplift Storm Trilogy (Brightness Reef, Infinity’s Shore, and Heaven’s Reach). The first set isn’t really a trilogy, as the books are standalone and only make slight references to one another; the latter two are epic adventures, whereas Sundiver was the author’s first published novel and is a rather dull and implausible murder mystery.[/quote]

Cheers for that, I'll go hunting for those recommendations.
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Right then, it seems that I'm going to stop reading Prelude to Foundation and get stuck in to Foundation, followed by the next two.

After that I'll be checking out Startide Rising.
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Foundation books were great, but I never bothered with Prelude. The ending was a bit shit though [spoiler]the seldon plan was created by an iRobot.[/spoiler]

Just finished [b]Stand on Zanzibar[\b] which was a good read. Interesting as it was written in the late 60s and the story is set in 2010. He nailed a few things spot on, but with many others was so way off it's laughable.

Still, a good read.

Reading the first Culture novel now (Consider Phlebas)... interesting, and I love Bank's writing style :)
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Did you read his little essay that's hanging about online?

[url="http://www.vavatch.co.uk/books/banks/cultnote.htm"]http://www.vavatch.co.uk/books/banks/cultnote.htm[/url]
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[quote name='Hoop version too' post='6850288' date='Mar 2 2010, 05:34 PM']Did you read his little essay that's hanging about online?

[url="http://www.vavatch.co.uk/books/banks/cultnote.htm"]http://www.vavatch.co.uk/books/banks/cultnote.htm[/url][/quote]

Yeah, I think I've gone through that twice at various points :lol:

I love how he has to put a disclaimer at the top explaining that the culture is fictional :lol:
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Having read Revelation Space a while back I'm on a bit of a Reynolds roll at the moment and i would highly recommend his books as others already have. Read [i]Chasm City [/i]and now nearly finished [i]Redemption Ark[/i].

They're all fantastic books but they remind me a little bit of the West Wing. A lot of the time I haven't got the faintest idea what they're talking about what with all the Lorentz-Fitzgerald contractions, photo-leptonic explosions, altered vacuums expanding superluminally and stuff falling into tachyonic mass states but I enjoy it anyway.

I get the feeling it's all based on actual physics but it might be a load of old tosh too. Who cares?
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