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I was very confused to receive a package early this morning from Gamelore, bleary eyed I open it up, thinking it might be a mistake, when I see a little note from rllmuk, thanking me for the upgrade work. Oh and a big box of dungeon fun!

THANK YOU GUYZ! I'm really touched. Seriously nice thing to do! :hug: :wub: :hug:

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In case my thread would be more at home here than in Ask The Forum:
[url=http://www.rllmukforum.com/index.php?/topic/258542-dungeons-dragons-where-to-start/]Some friends and I are interested in playing a D&D style game, but know nothing. Advice or recommendations of alternatives would be very welcome![/url]
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I have a spare Death Sentinal/Haruli Thunderstone promo pack as I bought it not realising I had it, so whoever shouts first can have it.
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[quote name='DoctorEgo' timestamp='1328021968' post='8416994']
In case my thread would be more at home here than in Ask The Forum:
[url="http://www.rllmukforum.com/index.php?/topic/258542-dungeons-dragons-where-to-start/"]Some friends and I are interested in playing a D&D style game, but know nothing. Advice or recommendations of alternatives would be very welcome![/url]
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Pathfinder seems to be liked by Campfire and Joyrex here, may be a more accessible place to start than D&D? With D&D revising their rules soon now would seem like a silly time to start to learn their system.
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Pathfinder Core Set seems quite cheap too. £25 on Amazon (without even looking for better bargains).

I keep getting really tempted at that price but the theme usually bores the hell out of me.
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Is Pathfinder more accessible? I thought the whole point was that it's aimed at the people who wanted a continuation of D&D3.5's complexity.

I think D&D Essentials is the current intro version.
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[quote name='moosegrinder' timestamp='1328022981' post='8417029']
I have a spare Death Sentinal/Haruli Thunderstone promo pack as I bought it not realising I had it, so whoever shouts first can have it.
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I'd love it if it's still going.
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[quote name='DoctorEgo' timestamp='1328039870' post='8417576']
Many thanks gents. Sounds like Castle Ravenloft may be the kind of thing we're looking for! :)
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I'd advise getting Wrath Of Ashardalon, It's got a more traditional D&D feel (Ravenloft is more horror like and Drizzt is much better if you know the source material) and slightly more refined rules/scenarios, all 3 games are totally great though.

Dungeon Run is also a good alternative being very streamlined with added backstabbery.
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[quote name='waddie' timestamp='1328030093' post='8417274']
Is Pathfinder more accessible? I thought the whole point was that it's aimed at the people who wanted a continuation of D&D3.5's complexity.

I think D&D Essentials is the current intro version.
[/quote] Not having played the full version of Pathfinder I've heard it's brimming with rules.

Having said that, the Beginner Box is very easy to get to grips with, light on rules, and explains both how to play and how to GM a role playing game better than anything else I've read. It's perfect for anyone who wants to try RPGs out.
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A few people have mentioned the rule clarifications and ammendments in the two D&D boargames that follow Ravenloft, and that these improve the game. I haven't had a look yet, but I'm sure they'll be available online somewhere - is there any reason they wouldn't be retroactive? I wouldn't mind some line of sight rules, since Ravenloft has none, and perhaps some clearer movement and figure placement rules.
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Although Board Game Geek can be a hive of scum and villainy but the rules forums for each game are pretty indispensable. And you have Headless Hollow bookmarked yeah?
The D&D board game rules are pretty interchangeable I think, especially with clarification like the LOS rule. Do what we do: make it up as you go. There are some nutcases around here that think house rules are the work of Satan himself, but sometimes the rules are either too obtuse to use or just plain suck rancid elephant foreskin.
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There is a reason that Rllmuk is the second cuntiest forum on the internet and that is the BGG forums. It's soul destroyingly horrible in the general forums that they have.
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Yes, I've tried to penetrate (chortle) BGG in the past, but I find it so horrible to use that it genuinely puts me off! I wasn't aware of Headless Hollow! Will check it out, thanks. I've looked at the official forums at WotC, and yeah, we came up with house rules for LoS, but I'd still like to see some proper ones. It's cool that the core rules work across all the games. I thought they probably would.
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[quote name='Nathan Wind' timestamp='1328084450' post='8418217']
A few people have mentioned the rule clarifications and ammendments in the two D&D boargames that follow Ravenloft, and that these improve the game. I haven't had a look yet, but I'm sure they'll be available online somewhere - is there any reason they wouldn't be retroactive? I wouldn't mind some line of sight rules, since Ravenloft has none, and perhaps some clearer movement and figure placement rules.
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The clearer figure placement rules are easy to retro-fit - the later 2 games state that monsters should be placed on the scorch-mark/bones square, not just when appearing but also when moving, except when their movement rules specifies otherwise

There's no line of sight rules, it's been super abstracted, so yeah sometimes monsters and heroes can appear to fire round corners, but that's how the game has been designed - simple & fast

I don't think there's much else in the new rules that would affect or could be fitted to Ravenloft.
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So sounds like we could start with Drizzt, and always use Ravenloft / Expense of Ashordalon (can't find it unused for less than a hundred notes) as expansions? Ideal :)

Sounds like BGG would destroy my enthusiasm, but will take a peek at Headless Hollow.
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[quote name='SimonC' timestamp='1326967100' post='8394741']
I've just discovered there's a boardgame club local to me (in Aylesbury) who meet every week. I shall now have to go along which is scary and exciting in equal measures!
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Going along to the aforementioned boardgame club tonight. Is there any sort of etiquette I need to observe? Do they allow eating/drinking while playing at these sort of things or is that likely to get me a reputation as a dangerous individual who lives life on the edge?
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You can have a drink and snack, but you will be killed without hesitation if you spill anything. Best put the drink under a napkin too. No point eating a meal because you're there to play games!

I don't think there is any other etiquette. If they're not particularly welcoming then sod them and make your own club.
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Having food or drink anywhere near the table is just an accident waiting to happen. My darling son managed to splurge a mouthful of Vimto all over a brand-new Mystery Express, because his brother made him laugh at the wrong moment.
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[quote name='AK Bell' timestamp='1328095508' post='8418569']
Best put the drink under a napkin too.
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Do boardgame clubs draw in a lot of wasps? Or are there people who attend them with extended straws trying to steal a drink when you're trying to decide how to take Cthulhu down?
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If you hand around a large bag of cheesy wotsits before any cards are dealt I think you'll be the most popular member there.
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