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No, Amputechture is pretty good. I hated it at first, but Meccamputechture and Viscera Eyes kick ass. I really hope this arrives tomorrow as if it doesn't come until Monday I won't be able to hear it until tghe following weekend.
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I love the fact that the guy writing the guardian review thinks that muse are seriously unhinged, and anything more than that is just crazy. Reading it made me laugh, the poor fool.

amputecture is awesome, better than de-loused, just as good as frances.
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[quote name='coatnoize' post='4740780' date='Jan 25 2008, 07:36 PM']Whats this then? It's usually takes me around 20+ listens to figure out any of Cedric's vocals.[/quote]

'I have a penis that will tear the very fabric of time!'
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I enjoyed Amputechture, but I don't think it was as good as their previous efforts. It seemed a bit 'fragmented'.

Bedlam is starting to 'sink in' a bit now and I'm loving it a whole lot more than ampu.

Agadez is sweeeeet. First its on some off-kilter, latin sex trip, then it flips off into an outrageous latin-funk stomp then brings it all home with an At The Drive-In style intense-outro.
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[quote name='strawdonkey' post='4740636' date='Jan 25 2008, 06:11 PM']That's an interesting overreaction. Care to elaborate?[/quote]
They're easily one of the best live acts going at the moment. There is no space for difference of opinion on the matter.
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[quote name='SM47' post='4741214' date='Jan 25 2008, 10:32 PM']'I have a penis that will tear the very fabric of time!'[/quote]

:lol:

[quote name='SM47' post='4741226' date='Jan 25 2008, 10:37 PM']I enjoyed Amputechture, but I don't think it was as good as their previous efforts. It seemed a bit 'fragmented'.[/quote]

Yeah, thats what I thought too. The tracks were pretty good, and I do hum them to myself from time to time, but the album as a whole didn't seem to flow as well as the previous two. I'm liking the 'flow' on Bedlam.
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[quote name='dam_aks' post='4741626' date='Jan 26 2008, 04:05 AM']They're easily one of the best live acts going at the moment. There is no space for difference of opinion on the matter.[/quote]

If you like endless noodling, sure. I went during the Delousing days and was expecting a set full of energy and the tracks I love - and it was the single most disappointing gig I've ever been to.

If that means I don't appreciate what they're trying to do then so be it. I simply felt they ruined a fantastic album by being 'clever' in the live show.
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That the Guardian reviewer is so misinformed to even compare Muse and The Mars Volta means we can safely ignore his opinion.
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[quote name='strawdonkey' post='4742130' date='Jan 26 2008, 02:41 PM']If you like endless noodling, sure. I went during the Delousing days and was expecting a set full of energy and the tracks I love - and it was the single most disappointing gig I've ever been to.

If that means I don't appreciate what they're trying to do then so be it. I simply felt they ruined a fantastic album by being 'clever' in the live show.[/quote]

I've heard this in quite few corners of the internet and is one of the reasons I haven't plumped to see them live on their upcoming tour (the rest being money, distance and a holiday to pay for).

Without doubt one of my favourite bands, but the Scab Dates live album is vastly disappointing. It was by no means as bad as some of the live reviews I read, but 40 mins for Cicatriz Esp was a tad stupid. If I paid to see that show I would of left really annoyed. For such a good track, as the last of good gig, it shouldn't be dragged out over half an hour! :lol:

I'm all for experimental noodling and wankery in music, and the music they have created is mindblowing at times, but every rock gig needs a memorable encore. I could be wrong. I haven't seen them yet and I really hope I don't regret not seeing them this year. Be good to see some live reviews on here for those that do.
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They've been playing for 2 and a half hours on recent shows, although from what I've read they have slightly reigned in their more self-indulgent impulses live. There were moments when I saw them last (November 2003 according to the ticket I just found) that were awesome (in the genuine sense of the word), people around me were staring at each other in a state of semi-shock but then othertimes they bored the crowd witless. I've got tickets for the Manchester Apollo show so will post up my thoughts afterwards.
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[quote name='coatnoize' post='4742995' date='Jan 26 2008, 11:02 PM']I've heard this in quite few corners of the internet and is one of the reasons I haven't plumped to see them live on their upcoming tour (the rest being money, distance and a holiday to pay for).

Without doubt one of my favourite bands, but the Scab Dates live album is vastly disappointing. It was by no means as bad as some of the live reviews I read, but 40 mins for Cicatriz Esp was a tad stupid. If I paid to see that show I would of left really annoyed. For such a good track, as the last of good gig, it shouldn't be dragged out over half an hour! :lol:

I'm all for experimental noodling and wankery in music, and the music they have created is mindblowing at times, but every rock gig needs a memorable encore. I could be wrong. I haven't seen them yet and I really hope I don't regret not seeing them this year. Be good to see some live reviews on here for those that do.[/quote]
If you love the band then you should regret not seeing them live. Scab dates is probably my most unfavoured release of theirs, and definitely the one I listen to the least - however I think the live show The Mars Volta put on is absolutely stunning. The jamming/noodling/wankery between songs is fantastic, it builds up the intensity of their songs. Slowly the pieces start coming together and exploding with energy. It cannot be compared to or captured to a record because what they are doing is to be experienced there, in person, it feels unique - even if it is just incredibly well rehearsed.

Incidentally, I hate encores. If a band is doing one, they've prepared for it. That isn't an encore, that is going off stage a bit before the end of your allotted playing time then nipping back on again. They have lost all meaning for gigs today. I'd rather a band came out and played their arses off then that's it, rather than letting the audience massage their egos for them.
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[quote name='dam_aks' post='4743083' date='Jan 26 2008, 11:44 PM']Incidentally, I hate encores. If a band is doing one, they've prepared for it. That isn't an encore, that is going off stage a bit before the end of your allotted playing time then nipping back on again. They have lost all meaning for gigs today. I'd rather a band came out and played their arses off then that's it, rather than letting the audience massage their egos for them.[/quote]

This is very valid and I am by no way suggesting that they do an encore. It would be totally un-TMV-like, not suiting the band at all. I just can't help it, part of me loves experimental progessive techniques of truly ambitous music and part of me loves the cliched rock excess and narcisstic nature of the sterotypical rock star/band. This is a prime example of where these two things clash for me.

I really would like to have gone to this tour, and my girlfriend offered to get me tickets, but literally no one I know likes the band. A 700 mile round trip, on public transport, on my own just didn't sell it to me. Ho hum, at least they still making decent records. :lol:
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Well........... how is it? I can't hear my cd until I go home at the weekend. Strangely, I loved their first two albums almost instantaneously, was put off by Amputechture (supposedly their most commericial album) for about 6 months before I heard it. Everything I have heard of Bedlam so far I have liked, I just want to glean an inkling of how good it is.
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[quote name='Palo Alto' post='4746291' date='Jan 28 2008, 02:20 PM']Well........... how is it? I can't hear my cd until I go home at the weekend. Strangely, I loved their first two albums almost instantaneously, was put off by Amputechture (supposedly their most commericial album) for about 6 months before I heard it. Everything I have heard of Bedlam so far I have liked, I just want to glean an inkling of how good it is.[/quote]
In my opinion

1. deloused
2. frances
3. bedlam
4. amputecture
5. scabdates.

It's pretty standard for them, I think it's a bit too 'Safe' if you get me.
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Getting it tomorrow, i'll post thoughts on it tomorrow. The newest mars volta record always ends up being my favourite, i just love them that much. so prepare for gushing.

surely deloused is their most commercial? its basically the favourite album of people who prefer at the drive-in, not that's a bad thing. I think amputecture is their least commercial, just because its all action and no respite.
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[quote name='Palo Alto' post='4755641' date='Jan 31 2008, 01:55 PM']There is no hilarious Pitchfork review yet, I'm disappointed.[/quote]

Are The Mars Volta a band Pitchfork hates? I don't follow the site muchly.
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[quote name='bph' post='4743056' date='Jan 26 2008, 11:33 PM']There were moments when I saw them last (November 2003 according to the ticket I just found) that were awesome (in the genuine sense of the word), people around me were staring at each other in a state of semi-shock but then othertimes they bored the crowd witless. I've got tickets for the Manchester Apollo show so will post up my thoughts afterwards.[/quote]

Agreed on the comments about awestruck crowds. Some of the extended guitar-wankery and stuff might seem excessive, but I think it really creates the most intense atmosphere and it's great to see them linking these pieces of music like some kind of jigsaw puzzle. I've seen 'em live 3 times but not for a while. The last gig I travelled to was abruptly cancelled in Manchester after booking a hotel, time off work etc. Cedric supposedly had vocal issues. I reckon he had just smoked too much crack.
I've got tickets for the Apollo show too. They best not fuck me over again. I queued for hours in the cold and rain for that. ¬_¬
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After reading the [url="http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:wjfrxzlhld0e~T1"]glowing Allmusic review[/url], didn't realise before that John Frusciante was involved with this. I guess he's not part of the live band?
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I'm amazed by some parts of this thread.

Bedlam In Goliath is "[i]Safe[/i]"?!

In the sense that you've got distinct, shorter tracks in this album, you might call it safe.

But nothing about this music is [i]safe[/i]. It's the soundtrack of the revolution!

It's fucking powerful, heart-in-your-mouth shit.

Safe!
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[quote name='bastion' post='4760929' date='Feb 2 2008, 01:37 PM']I'm amazed by some parts of this thread.

Bedlam In Goliath is "[i]Safe[/i]"?!

In the sense that you've got distinct, shorter tracks in this album, you might call it safe.

But nothing about this music is [i]safe[/i]. It's the soundtrack of the revolution!

It's fucking powerful, heart-in-your-mouth shit.

Safe![/quote]
safe compared to their other albums. Which is understandable considering the changes in drummer and all the problems they had making it. No 5-minutes-of-rewinding here.
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