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Now seems like a great time to get a Canon 5D Mk1. Seem to average about £5-600 quid.

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What's the 1.4 not doing for you at the moment?

The 1.2 is great in my experience (insert nicky or rev bringing up back focus issues) but not worth the massive price hike on the 1.4.

The 35mm 1.4 is really nice too if you want something wider. If you have a cropped body it'll function similarly to using a 50mm on a full frame.

the only downsides to the 1.2 canon are the flaring of light sources at night, and the not worth it over the 1.4's cost

The benefit of the 1.2 (and 1.4's) was the low light performance. but with the ISO performances of cameras these days, 1.4 is plenty wide enough.

i dont know what canon 1.4's are like by the way. but i fucking bummed my Nikon 50mm 1.4. other than the slow focusing, it was utterly brilliant.

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Thanks guys, my cannon 1.4 was dropped and it buggered the autofocus. Slightly annoying - slightly annoying and I tried to fix it myself but it's not perfect so I thought I would replace it and sell the old one on eBay for a little cash. The build is a bit cheapish although the optics are good once it's stopped down to 1.8.

If the sigma is good wide open then that's what I would want it for. A fast prime is really handy for parties and stuff. I hear the sigma is a solid lens with nice build quality so that is tempting. The only thing I was hesitant about are the issues with calibration.

I have a FF camera so I am not sure if 35mm would be a bit wide, generally I have enough space to compose shots at 50mm.

Thanks for the input :)

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I bought my Sigma second hand after seeing test pics - I think that is probably the best way of doing it. I still had to fiddle with it a bit, but I'm happy with it now. Not utterly perfect if you subject it to pixel peeping but I'm happy I made the right choice. The build quality is great (even if the insides aren't as consistent as try should be), it's nicely weighted. Etc.

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I got my 5D mk II a few months ago but the MK3 is not a huge leap forward; still 50fps at 720p for video. They had to hamstring it really to protect the video market for the C300

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Actually it shoots 720p at 59.94fps :D

Ken Rockwell has this to say:

The 5D Mark III is the world's best Canon DSLR. It's a huge improvement over the 5D Mark II due to the image improvements from automatic color fringe correction, and the greatly improved power and depth-of-field controls. If you shoot Canon, you deserve one of these.

It's coming into the UK at £2999.99, so you can expect it to drop to £2.5k within a few months, £2k after a year and further from there.

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Actually it shoots 720p at 59.94fps :D

Ken Rockwell has this to say:

It's coming into the UK at £2999.99, so you can expect it to drop to £2.5k within a few months, £2k after a year and further from there.

Ken Rockwell's hyperbole is trying at the best of times but in suggesting that revised placements for the power and DOF preview buttons are reason enough to upgrade he may well have outdone himself.

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Actually it shoots 720p at 59.94fps :D

Ken Rockwell has this to say:

It's coming into the UK at £2999.99, so you can expect it to drop to £2.5k within a few months, £2k after a year and further from there.

i still dont think its £600 more of a camera than a D800. to be honest i was expecting a lot more from the mk3. it feels like they've pulled their punches a bit. Have you guys seen the low light high ISO samples from the mk3 yet?

http://web.canon.jp/...ownloads/02.jpg

ISO 6400 it isn't particuarly great.

to balance it out a bit -

heres an unofficial 100% crop of a D800 at 6400

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-showvkoeOZ4/T0f6uSB37mI/AAAAAAAAENw/2ThCSeiLBbk/s0/06400.jpg

again not great, but theres a lot being made of the mkIII's low light capability. Whereas the D800 is being pushed more towards the well lit IQ for studio and events. from those low light samples though there's not *too much* difference,

when you run both cameras images through some proper noise reduction (and scale the nikon images down to the same size as the canons) there'll be even less difference.

To me it seems to leave the only plus points about the MK3 being the focus improvements, which as far as i can tell, finally means its caught up to what Nikon have had for the past 3-4 years. I checked out the video's morrius posted earlier RE the focusing system, and it seemed to me, to now do what ive been doing on my D700 and other nikons for a good while. Albeit with a few less focus zones. But really i havent had any issue tracking or focusing with any "red ring" equivalent nikon speed lenses.

echoing some of the other points made by people in here. the best thing about the mk III is the price reductions its meant for the mk II. It means its going to be hard to resist picking up a 2nd hand mkII for video fuckaboutery.

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Ken Rockwell's hyperbole is trying at the best of times but in suggesting that revised placements for the power and DOF preview buttons are reason enough to upgrade he may well have outdone himself.

Equal reasoning to buy a 5D3 is:

1.) Automatic correction of lateral color fringes

(Ie. What Lightroom Does, In Exactly The Same Way, Using Profiles. Which Ken Won't Use If They're Not Pre-Loaded. Bless.)

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Equal reasoning to buy a 5D3 is:

1.) Automatic correction of lateral color fringes

(Ie. What Lightroom Does, In Exactly The Same Way, Using Profiles. Which Ken Won't Use If They're Not Pre-Loaded. Bless.)

im sure nikons have fixed that automatically for years too. ;)

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I got my 5D mk II a few months ago but the MK3 is not a huge leap forward; still 50fps at 720p for video. They had to hamstring it really to protect the video market for the C300

I don't think the C300 does 1080p 50/60 either, but the relative worth of the C300 is a whole other discussion!

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im sure nikons have fixed that automatically for years too. ;)

Yeah, he said that. I think Nikon are ahead at the moment, Canon seem to have been really affected by the earthquake - everything seems a good couple of years behind.

Although in fairness, that 5D3 ISO6400 is an idiotic demonstration shot, because for the lights to appear like that you need a good 15 seconds, at least. Look at the stars in detail (especially the brighter ones) and you can see that the camera wasn't held still. Quite how you're meant to judge quality on a motion-blurred shot is ridiculous. It looks way worse than 5D2 ISO6400.

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Canon's samples have historically always been a bit crappy, I'd wait for "real life testing" for any conclusions really... definitely for any RAW comparisons rather than the "2 stops improvement" jpeg's.

The Mk II should have had a kick-ass AF system of course, as far as I'm concerned, but this Mk III seems to set things straight. If only it wasn't for that price...

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My 24-105 is knackered AGAIN. The IS is fucked. Switch it on and it the viewfinder dances like fraggle on PCP & makes similar noises. Back to Colchester repair centre it goes on Monday.

:(

On the other front - I've picked up a second hand Sigma 150-500 that is soft as hell up to about 250 but is sharper than my 100-400 wide open - not prime sharp but pretty amazing. By F8 there is no difference. Not had a chance to try the AF yet though.

£400.

I think its my new walkaround when I can't be arsed lugging the 300 2.8.

Don't know if I want to parted from my beloved 100-400 though.

I've also cracked and ordered the 100 2.8L IS Macro - so my 77mm 50D will up in the next few days.

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My 24-105 is knackered AGAIN. The IS is fucked. Switch it on and it the viewfinder dances like fraggle on PCP & makes similar noises. Back to Colchester repair centre it goes on Monday.

:(

Is it in warranty? If not, how much is it going to cost? I really ought to get mine fixed. The IS is also starting to screw up on mine, in addition to the slipping aperture it's had for ages.

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Yeah, he said that. I think Nikon are ahead at the moment, Canon seem to have been really affected by the earthquake - everything seems a good couple of years behind.

Although in fairness, that 5D3 ISO6400 is an idiotic demonstration shot, because for the lights to appear like that you need a good 15 seconds, at least. Look at the stars in detail (especially the brighter ones) and you can see that the camera wasn't held still. Quite how you're meant to judge quality on a motion-blurred shot is ridiculous. It looks way worse than 5D2 ISO6400.

Yep, On all counts.

As for Nickys NIkon fanboy post, the 5DMKIII will be at least £800 cheaper in a few months (earthquake + canon tax) whereas the D800 won't be. Honestly guys, camera format wars are so, so, boring and best left out of this thread for the sake of sanity. Equivalent cameras are practically identical in the hands of a good photographer. The only reason I shoot Canon is I started with a 300D years ago :lol: If nikon had a £50 rebate on their entry level stuff I'd probably have loads of Nikon gear now. Once you've used both for a good while you realise they're depressingly similar and most of your flag waving was a waste of time.

There's no point comparing a £3k body to another similarly priced body from a different manufacturer in the real world, because anyone considering buying either will already have a stack of lenses and experience with one system or the other. In this case you just have to ask yourself if the MkIII is a good upgrade to the MkII at the cost. The answer to which is LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL and then a deep breath and then LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL again.

Having said all that, this is pretty funny

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Why are my eyes constantly drawn to eBay auctions of second hand Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM Macro lenses?

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Yep, On all counts.

As for Nickys NIkon fanboy post, the 5DMKIII will be at least £800 cheaper in a few months (earthquake + canon tax) whereas the D800 won't be. Honestly guys, camera format wars are so, so, boring and best left out of this thread for the sake of sanity. Equivalent cameras are practically identical in the hands of a good photographer. The only reason I shoot Canon is I started with a 300D years ago :lol: If nikon had a £50 rebate on their entry level stuff I'd probably have loads of Nikon gear now. Once you've used both for a good while you realise they're depressingly similar and most of your flag waving was a waste of time.

There's no point comparing a £3k body to another similarly priced body from a different manufacturer in the real world, because anyone considering buying either will already have a stack of lenses and experience with one system or the other. In this case you just have to ask yourself if the MkIII is a good upgrade to the MkII at the cost. The answer to which is LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL and then a deep breath and then LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL again.

Having said all that, this is pretty funny

the thing is Morrius, i dont currently own any nikon gear AT ALL.Id like to know your reasoning as to why the d800 wont reduce in price. Canon werent the only company to suffer at the hands of the earthquake.

what you need to remember is, i have used both systems professionally, so its not blatant fanboyism.

as for the video, if youd have been keeping abreast of camera practices at all over the past say...5 years you'd know that this sort of thing happens all the time.

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Had a play with the Canon 5D Mark III at Focus on Imaging today but it is difficult to deduce much at those kind of shows, particularly as that was the busiest part of the busiest stand in there. What was interesting was a number of places had the 5D Mark II at £1099 body only which is a bargain. I would have bought it if I could afford the divorce as well.

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Why are my eyes constantly drawn to eBay auctions of second hand Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM Macro lenses?

Second hand prices are pretty insane. Maybe I'll better grab the non-L, non-IS model at less than half price to see if macro is my thing in the first place. The Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM is getting good reviews and go for considerably less and even bargain prices second hand. Seems lots of people buy them and then find out they don't use them.

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That was a short beta... Lightroom 4 is now out. Not a bad price either, 100 notes.

I had a feeling it wouldn't be too long when the price of 3 tanked on Amazon last week. At that price, I'm definitely buying as the changes to the process engine and the adjustment brush are well worth it for me.

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Is it in warranty? If not, how much is it going to cost? I really ought to get mine fixed. The IS is also starting to screw up on mine, in addition to the slipping aperture it's had for ages.

Nope - its out. I should be getting a call from Canon to let me know how much its going to hurt today or tomorrow - I'll let you know.

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What was interesting was a number of places had the 5D Mark II at £1099

hold me back!

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GRRRR @ Lightroom. I didn't sell the copy of LR3 I got with my GF2 because I figured keeping it for upgrading to LR4 was better value. So what do they do to me:

LR3: $399

LR3 Upgrage: $99

LR4: $149

LR4 Upgade: $79

THAT ISN'T MATHS.

I guess it'll be nice to be legal.

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i dont currently own any nikon gear AT ALL

my D700

:coffee:

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Nicky, we all know you like NIkon. We've all been in the thread for the past 218 pages :lol:

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