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#31 Billy Brown

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 10:42 AM

Made another MTT final table on Friday night (same venue as the one I won back in March), finishing fourth for £400. It was another £10 rebuy affair, with 86 runners. Very pleased with my play for the most part; I felt that I was reading players well. I made one huge bluff over the top with Ace-high when I thought the guy to my right was trying it on, and thankfully I managed to push him out. More importantly, I was able to lay a couple of vital hands down that maybe a year ago I wouldn't have done. They turned out to be good decisions too by all accounts. I also got my money in with the best of it when down to four, so no complaints there either. A good night all in all.

For those of you who know my mate Alan from the London poker meets, he also made the final table which was excellent. He went out in eighth for £120.
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#32 Poet

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 02:48 PM

I need to get in on some of this live MTT action. Nice one again!
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Posted 31 October 2007 - 10:11 AM

Just read Billy's post, amazing scenes. Now that I'm at uni there's no practical way I can play in London games, but I managed to place 6th out of 67th at the recent uni tournament. £5 freezeout with the University Poker League doubling the pot, I reckon I played well to the end, but I got into hot water with aces, short-stacked I pushed and ran into jacks... which made a set on the flop.

Billy how long did your tourney take? I'm considering playing one of the regular re-buys but I'm wondering if it would drag on for absolutely ages (if there's about 30-40 players or so, rebuying allowed for the first hour...).
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#34 Billy Brown

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 01:05 PM

The setup at the tournament I played in was rebuys for the first hour-and-a-half (three blind levels), and then 20 minute blinds after that. I think we had been playing for around four-and-a-half hours when I went out in fourth. However, there were nearly 90 runners there, so I'd imagine it would take much less time if you're looking at 30-40 players at your one.
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#35 Commander Jameson

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 09:56 AM

The London Poker Meetup group is having a big tourney in May. Details below. Sounds interesting, especially being over two days and deep-stacked with 40 min blinds.

Anyone interested?

When: Saturday 10th and Sunday 11th May 2008 (13:00hrs kick off)
Where: Venue TBC (in London)

Format: No Limit Texas Holdem, Freezeout

Buy-in: £100 + £10 (possibility of zero vig depending on venue)

Starting Stack: T20,000 (maximum 900k in play).

8 x Green (25)
8 x Black (100)
8 x Purple (500)
5 x White (1000)
2 x Red (5000)

Clock: 40 mins throughout

Runners: Capped at 45 Max.

Payouts: Top 7 (16% of the field)

Restricted to: registered members of London Poker Meetup or 7-2offsuit/Friday Night Poker only.

Prizepool: (assuming capacity) - £4500

1st - £1500 PLUS a sponsored seat to the APAT World Amateur Poker Championship Holdem event at the Vic on 30th August*
2nd - £1000 PLUS a sponsored seat to the APAT World Amateur Poker Championship Omaha event at the Vic on 27th August*
3rd - £700
4th - £500
5th - £350
6th - £250
7th - £200
8th Bubble Prize

* Very generously donated by Des Duffy - cheers Des!

TOURNAMENT STRUCTURE

We'll be starting with a massive 20K stack this year, antes at a similar stage as last and 40-minute levels right the way through. There will be a 25K/50K cap, if we actually get that far (which I doubt). With up to 900K in play I'm expecting approximately 14-16 hours of play in total (8 hours per day max). We'll break every 80 mins for 10 mins for fag and toilet breaks, and an hour for dinner. Blinds will start at 25/50 off the Button, structure shown below.

DAY ONE

25-50
50-100

75-150
100-200

150-300
200-400

- Dinner Break / Colour Up -

300-600
400-800

500-1000 (100 ante)
600-1200 (100 ante)

800-1600 (200 ante)
1000-2000 (200 ante)

DAY TWO

1500-3000 (300 ante)
2000-4000 (400 ante)

- Colour Up -

2500-5000 (500 ante)
3000-6000 (500 ante)

- Colour Up -

4000-8000 (1000 ante)
5000-10000 (1000 ante)

- Dinner Break -

6000-12000 (1000 ante)
8000-16000 (2000 ante)

10000-20000 (2000 ante)
15000-30000 (3000 ante)

20000-40000 (4000 ante)
25000-50000 (5000 ante)


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#36 Billy Brown

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 10:36 AM

I've been pondering this one. I'm in the middle of moving house, so I'm supposed to be saving every penny. However, it's rare that I have the opportunity to play in a tournament with a structure like this, so I'm very tempted. Are you going to have a dabble?

I'd be especially annoyed if I finished second, though, as my Omaha skills leave a lot to be desired.
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#37 Commander Jameson

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 10:39 AM

Yes. I reckon I'll play.

Also, tourney at mine in the next two weeks?
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#38 Billy Brown

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 10:43 AM

Yep, definitely up for playing at yours soon. I'm just checking your dates with the good lady wife; I'll get back to you shortly.

As for the two-day tournament, I think I could probably be persuaded.
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 06:21 PM

Anyone know any good Manchester clubs or pubs? or where to find them?

Need to get out and play.
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#40 Darragh

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 09:43 PM

Pretty decent structure for that thing, there. Not sure about the jump from 400-800 to 500-1000 (100), though. It's a big jump, going from costing you 1200 a round to costing 2400 a round (assuming a 9-handed table). They should maybe have 500-1000 no ante level in between those two levels.

That's just my opinion, though. Well worth £100, I suggest ye play it.
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#41 Poet

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 12:06 PM

Right, who wants to join a card room/casino (or several!) with me and go rape some cash games and the odd tourney? I want to start sometime soon (though am away week after next for about two weeks).
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#42 Billy Brown

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 03:31 PM

I'm definitely up for playing some more live tournaments and maybe dabbling in some cash. I have membership at Loose Cannon, which is a nice venue. It does seem a little steep though at £5 a quarter and then £3 on the door every time. I'm up for joining up elsewhere, so let me know where you fancy.

I might not be able to play as often as you're planning being outside of London, but I'll certainly make the effort to get up and play whenever possible.
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Posted 09 May 2008 - 08:22 PM

Excellent. I should join there as well then if you think it's worthwhile, as well as perhaps a casino or two dotted around London. I need to do some exploring.
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Posted 10 May 2008 - 08:40 PM

Just got back from playing a deep-stacked live game at Loose Cannon. 72 entrants, £120 buy-in, dealer tables, 20k starting stack, 40 min blinds starting at 25/50.

With what seems to be my usual tale of woe, I was knocked out by a runner-runner flush. But to start at the beginning... I thought I would take my time and not rush into any hands to begin with. I won a couple of small pots early on (big blind specials), getting me up to 22k, which was the highest I got to during the day.

My stack was hit significantly when my JJ (UTG) ran into KK (big blind) and when my AQs was reraised after I had put in a 4xBB raise in early position.

After that, I was really just hanging on. It soon got to all-in moves. None were called (I was playing A-rag, KQo by this time), so I was picking up the blinds and antes. I had KK twice and never got called. These were my best hands all day.

The blinds were 800/1600 with a 200 ante. The guy to my right raised. I had AKo, so I went all-in (reraising to approx 15k). He eventually called, showing JQs (diamonds). The flop was Kxx with one diamond. He got runner-runner diamonds to get the flush and knock me out in 33rd (out of 72). Very annoyed at my bad luck, but there's nothing you can do about it.

Managed to play for around 8 hours in total and finished in the top half, but really not due to my card playing. I'm not sure why I'm finding these London tourneys so hard to play. I do decently in our home games, but don't seem to get the same kind of luck in other live games. Will have to have a think and maybe change my style of play for those games.

As I speak Billy Brown is still there...
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#45 Darragh

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Posted 10 May 2008 - 10:09 PM

Wow, that's a really great structure, for £120. Was that with every level included (75/150, 150/300)? I assume antes came in at 150/300? Was the level repeated when the antes came in? If the answer to all of those questions was yes, that's fantastic value.

Terrible call by the guy with JQ, but that's the way it goes.
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#46 Commander Jameson

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Posted 10 May 2008 - 11:46 PM

Here's the structure...

25-50
50-100

100-200
150-300

200-400
300-600

- Dinner Break / Colour Up -

400-800
400-800 (100 ante)

600-1200 (100 ante)
800-1600 (200 ante)

1000-2000 (200 ante)
1500-3000 (300 ante)

Even with 40 minute blinds, it still felt like you were having to go all-in quite quickly. I was surviving until the dinner break, then had to start going all-in from then.
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#47 Billy Brown

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 12:25 AM

The blinds were 800/1600 with a 200 ante. The guy to my right raised. I had AKo, so I went all-in (reraising to approx 15k). He eventually called, showing JQs (diamonds). The flop was Kxx with one diamond. He got runner-runner diamonds to get the flush and knock me out in 33rd (out of 72). Very annoyed at my bad luck, but there's nothing you can do about it.

I'm pretty sure that was Rick Dacey, who is the news editor for Poker Player magazine. Managed to catch him out trying to steal the blinds from the cut-off when I was on the button (I was playing pretty tight, and the two to my left were pretty rock-like). I reraised all-in with A7o, and with the odds to call he had to sheepishly flip over K2o. Thankfully I didn't suffer the same bad luck as you.

I've made it through to Day Two, although I'm only sitting on 32k, and we resume tomorrow on the 1500/3000/300 level, so I'll be needing to make a move early on. I think there are 25 left though, so I have a chance if I can double through early on.

Didn't see many premium hands today, so I'm really pleased to have lasted this long. My stack was up and down all day while I was trying to make the most of what I was dealt. I was unlucky early on, getting rivered on one hand, and flopping a well-concealed straight in another, only to have it beaten by a bigger one. Managed to minimise my losses, though, so that was something. My nicest hand today was when I caught a flop of J-T-T with pocket Jacks against a loose player who chased a flush draw and caught it on the river. I still don't think I got as much as I could have done out of him in hindsight, though. I also flopped a King-high flush with somebody betting at me. I thought I'd made the perfect play in giving it a bit of Hollywood before shoving all my chips in as if I wanted him to go away there and then, but he went into the tank for an absolute age before mucking. Again, maybe I could have played my hand a little better, but it was still a decent enough pot to scoop. The most agonising hand was mucking pocket sixes in early position when I had been moved to a fairly loose table, only to see three players limp for a flop of 6-6-5. Even worse, there was plenty of action post-flop. I managed to forget about it before too long but I was steaming there for a little while.

Some decent players there too today; I had Liv Boree at my table for a while, who's a pro with Absolute Poker and won the Ladbrokes Ladies European Championship a couple of weeks back for $30,000 and a seat to the WSOP Main Event.
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#48 Billy Brown

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 06:56 PM

Frustratingly, I'm back from the second day having gone out in 11th. Top nine got paid, with 10th place getting decent chip set, so I guess I was the real bubble boy. I was pretty much card dead for the whole day; I think my best hand was pocket sixes. The hand I went out on was particularly annoying. My only move for a couple of orbits previously had been to push all-in pre-flop, so when I flat called a 3xBB raise from the button on the big blind, I thought people was have me down for a monster hand. In actual fact I had 65cc, and the flop came 7c-x-2c. I put the rest of my stack in (not a great deal admittedly, but enough to take the pot down if the other guy thought he was behind), and the original raiser eventually made an outstanding call with just Ace-high. Obviously I wasn't quite giving out the vibes I thought I was! I got no help from the turn or river, and that was that.

It's harsh to go that far and come away with nothing, but I'm pretty pleased with how I played. Had I caught the flush on that final hand I would have fancied my chances to make an impact on the final table. Oh well.
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Posted 11 May 2008 - 07:44 PM

Oh man I feel for you. Unlucky! Scant consolation but it's still a great job going that deep.
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#50 Billy Brown

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Posted 12 May 2008 - 10:22 AM

Thanks. I think this is one occasion where I should perhaps have forgotten about ‘go big or go home’ and rather limp to the final table and take it from there. There were a few short stacks and I can’t imagine that it would have taken much longer for someone to bust. Oh well, onwards and upwards!
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Posted 13 March 2010 - 12:22 AM

Went to the Vic to play the Blackbelt Poker deep stack event. $200 buyin, 20,000 starting stack and 45 minute blinds. Haven't played live in over a year so was pretty nervous especially because of the number of professionals playing (pretty much a who's who of British poker). Didn't recognise anyone on my starting table but there must have been 3 professionals because Neil Channing kept coming over to talk to them.

The first blind level was quite strange with either everyone folding to the CO/BB (there was also 4 or 5 walks) or if someone did raise they picked up 3-5 callers. Got some above average hands to start with but usually OOP and after a raise, didn't hit anything good on the flop. Had AK once, raised preflop and didn't see the big blind call and accidentally mucked my hand. First big hand I played was Kings, raised UTG picked up one caller who check/called my 3/4 pot bet on the flop and turn and bet into me on the river, I made a crying call and he had made a backdoor flush (called with an inside straight draw on the flop and picked up a flush draw on the turn).

Didn't take me long to get some chips back, soon after I called with TT on the button after a raise and saw a flop of KT3. He bet into me, I raised, he called. Turn was another 3, he checked and I checked, river was a blank and he came out betting again, I raised him 2.5 times his bet and he called, didn't get to see his hand. He went out not long after when he raised with aces got called and after nearly the same betting pattern lost to someone who had made a set of jacks on the flop. The next couple of blind levels didn't really pick up any hands, had aces once but didn't announce my raise before putting my chips in. The big blind checked and then came out betting on the flop which was a little confussing, I called and he bet the same amount on the turn, it was a harmless board and he was a bit fishy so I called again, he checked the river and showed 2nd pair :P .

Went card dead after that and a big stack joined the table who was raising and 3-betting alot but on the last hand before the 2nd break i doubled up, after a call from mp the player next to me raised, I reraised with QQ on the button, both called and the flop came a lovely Q78 rainbow. Both checked to me, I bet, mp called and the original preflop raiser moved all in, I had him just covered so moved all in my self and the other player folded. He turned over AJ and I had to sweat a bit when he picked up a flush draw on the turn (the other guy said he had AQ). Went into the break in 8th place with 51,000 chips.

After the break I missed a big chance to add to my stack, an ep player called and I checked in the big blind with A5s. The flop came King high and gave me a flush draw, I bet out and he called, hit the flush on the turn and bet out again only for him to reraise me, I just called. The river was a blank and instead of checking to him I over bet the pot (hopeing he had a flush aswell) and he folded. Another aggressive big stack ( B ) was moved to the table soon after and being card dead I only played one hand in the next 2 blind levels (a raise on the button from a shortish stack me all in with 99 in the big blind, he called with KK and won). The two aggressive players started to butt heads, first on a flop of 774 both went all in, player A with a king high flush draw and B with a an ace high flush draw both hit a flush, and then a bit later B having raised in ep with T9s called a allin from A for 20,000, A had K5 and went out to a flopped flush. B wasn't finished yet he called another huge all in preflop with KT. The other player had 88, the flop came K8A, turn K river A. With the blinds at 300/600 A.75 and 400/800 A.100 my stack dwindled to 28,000 going into the dinner break.

I went out the first hand after the dinner break. There was only 5 players seated at the table and i had AK UTG rasied, mp reraised and I moved all in partly because of the frustration of being card dead for so long and partly not minding a coin flip to get myself a decent stack to make it back for the final day, he called with AA. I picked up an inside straight draw on the flop but went out.
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#52 Billy Brown

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 01:07 PM

Unlucky tony, win a flip there against anything other than AA or KK and it sounds like you were set for a deep finish. How many entered/were left when you went out? And how many paid out? Top prize?

Do you play on the BBP online skin at all? I was tempted to take part in their grading qualification a couple of months back as I had just moved to a new area of the country and was looking for work -- but I landed a job pretty quickly so that put paid to being able to grind six hours of poker per day.
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Posted 15 March 2010 - 04:55 PM

Sounds like quite the fish fest at that Vic tourney. Need to play some live tourneys but I refuse to play less than 30 mins blinds cos I might as well play online otherwise.
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#54 Billy Brown

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 10:10 PM

Yeah, it's hard to find a decent structure unless you want to spend hundeds of pounds each time you play a tourney.
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Posted 15 March 2010 - 11:08 PM

Trying the £20 freezeout in the Empire Casino Leicester Square this Friday. Anyone any experience? I am hoping to get a bit of a fish frenzy, but you never know.
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Posted 15 March 2010 - 11:09 PM

Unlucky tony, win a flip there against anything other than AA or KK and it sounds like you were set for a deep finish. How many entered/were left when you went out? And how many paid out? Top prize?

Do you play on the BBP online skin at all? I was tempted to take part in their grading qualification a couple of months back as I had just moved to a new area of the country and was looking for work -- but I landed a job pretty quickly so that put paid to being able to grind six hours of poker per day.

I went out about 80th out of 150, 300 runners all together across 2 starting days, top prize was $15,000. I still had a ok chipstack, blinds were 500/1000/a100 and I had 28,800 but I'd decided I was going to really go for it after dinner and get a decent stack together otherwise getting home was going to be a pain. Worst of all I'd actually rushed to get back to the Vic and could have missed the hand (only 5 of the 10 players were at the table during the hand). Never played on BPP, just signed up to enter this.

Sounds like quite the fish fest at that Vic tourney. Need to play some live tourneys but I refuse to play less than 30 mins blinds cos I might as well play online otherwise.

I think because it was so deepstacked players were just trying to make hands to break each other. I didn't recognise anyone at my table but looking them up of the starting 10 there was Jerome Bradpiece (winnings $480,598), Andrew Ward (winnings $325,181), Luke Smith (winnings $179,365) and Dominic Kay (winnings $370,161) and only 2 fishy players (who both went out quite quickly). The aggressive big stack from my table making the crazy plays finished 11th and went out with the 2nd biggest stack deciding to move all in on the chip leader with 22 on a board of 5s,9c,4s after raising preflop.

All info here http://blackbeltpoker.blogspot.com/ .
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 01:50 AM

Trying the £20 freezeout in the Empire Casino Leicester Square this Friday. Anyone any experience? I am hoping to get a bit of a fish frenzy, but you never know.

I obviously don't know that tournament exactly, but if it's a £20 freezeout, you're perfectly right to expect the ratio good players to bad to be quite juicy indeed.
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 01:54 AM

there's a small but nonzero chance I might be moving to london for the summer, which would be fun since I might actually end up playing live a bit! There's also a chance that I might end up moving to Enschede as well, though, and I have no idea if there are any games there.
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 04:26 AM

Trying the £20 freezeout in the Empire Casino Leicester Square this Friday. Anyone any experience? I am hoping to get a bit of a fish frenzy, but you never know.


I've played it a few times, it's mostly an aquarium. Think it's 15 minute blinds, basically it plays like a 5min blind tourney online. So get active early whilst you've got room for postflop play if possible and expect a shove fest after the 2nd break apart from those happy to call off a third of a stack with garbage in case they hit a piece.

I just can't stand the live turbos, I don't have the luxury of running good and rely on making superior preflop and postflop decisions, but with these structures the edge you have just isn't significant enough in my opinion unless you're playing tons of em.

Re: the UK pros mentioned above, don't know of most of em but Andy Ward is such an ABC player in my opinion from what I've seen televised in the last few years. But then I think most UK regular TV pros range from average to atrocious, save for Neil Channing and a couple others I can't recall at the mo.
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 07:35 AM

there's a small but nonzero chance I might be moving to london for the summer, which would be fun since I might actually end up playing live a bit! There's also a chance that I might end up moving to Enschede as well, though, and I have no idea if there are any games there.

Yay! Come to my Rllmuk home games.

We'll have to try and get Dazza over and Poet back too.
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