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#61 Poet

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 04:03 AM

Ridiculous call with just Aces, no draw. I know "just aces" sounds ridiculous to those of you don't play Omaha, but if you're looking at a 5000 dollar bet, there's no sense in calling with just an overpair to the board. So, as you can see, bad calls happen no matter how high you go.

Wow. REALLY.

Like I said, this place is just for venting for me. You can see ridiculous beats in the BBV sub forum over at the 2+2 forums at all levels, and a number of ridiculously good players posting what is an obscene amount of winnings. It'd be nice to be up there with the big boys one day.
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Posted 31 March 2007 - 04:13 AM

Wow. REALLY.


Alright man, chill out. I know that when you're on the bad run you seem to be on, it feels like you're the only one. It's just variance, just trying to show that it happens to everyone. These bad runs turn into good ones, then into bad ones, and so on. You just need to minimise your losses in the bad runs, and maximise them in the good ones. Plus, at the .50/1 level, where I used to spend my time, there are far more weak players than even at 1/2, so bad calls become more frequent, meaning bad beats become more frequent.
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Posted 31 March 2007 - 04:33 AM

Eh? I was just vehemently agreeing with you that it was a really bad play from the guy with AA! That's all. I'm totally chilled. Just sitting here doing some casino bonuses while catching up on some TV shows, occasionally taking a break and reading rllmuk.
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Posted 31 March 2007 - 04:37 AM

Eh? I was just vehemently agreeing with you that it was a bad play from the guy with AA! That's all. I'm totally chilled. Just sitting here doing some casino bonuses while catching up on some TV shows, occasionally taking a break and reading rllmuk.


Oh, my apologies. :unsure: Capital letters rarely express being chilled out, my mistake. :wub:
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Posted 31 March 2007 - 04:48 AM

Sorry - it was more of an italic thing expressing surprise rather than a shouty thing, except I was too lazy to put it in italics. Y'know, like Chandler or something.

Anyway, yes I'm running bad, but I'm still actually a few hundred dollars up in the last two weeks, plus another few hundred in rakeback and then some more in bonuses, so it's not like I'm actually losing money. Hmmmmm.... just had a look. Overall, I'm still good for well over a thousand dollars including all the extra bumpf. Oh I just worked it out - I'm currently making around 15 per hour while I feel like this is an awful run. It's not the end of the world by any stretch.
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Posted 31 March 2007 - 06:47 PM

Oh just for fun, my last casino bonus, I turned $215 into $0 in the space of $700 wagered using $4 bets, including hitting an incredible 22 Double Losses to 13 Wins. When I run bad I guess I run bad at everything.
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Posted 08 April 2007 - 11:41 PM

Those close to me know the utter punishment I've taken recently. Well, today was no exception.

Highlights:

AJ vs AK. Jxx flop, Ace on turn. He checkraises me all in. Of course I call. King on river.
JT vs K6. AJT flop. He bets, I put him all in. He calls. Turn Queen.
KQ vs AK. AQx flop. He bets small, so I call. Turn Queen. He bets, I put him all in, he calls. River Ace.
KK vs QQ. All in on low flop. Turn Queen.
KK vs AQ all in on JT9 flop. Turn 8.
KK vs ATo all in preflop. Flopped an Ace.

And a few others where I was over 90% to win when the money went in. Yes, 90%. Set vs overpair twice included where they hit their higher set on the river.

I have finally run worse than I ever possibly imagined. It's not fun.
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Posted 09 April 2007 - 01:48 AM

Ouch, man. Some real coolers there. I had a similar run a few months back, and while it hasn't stopped, it's not as severe now. Just know that because of this bad run, you'll experience an equally enormous good run at some stage.

I've decided to take a much-needed break from the game until my league finals. Then, after the summer, when I'm back in my old apartment in the city with broadband, I'm going to lodge 200 dollars to an online account, get myself a rakeback deal, get myself set up with PokerTracker, and get my game polished by grinding up from $.05/$.10, and move up levels every time I get together 20 buyins for the next level. So at $400 I'll move up to $.10/$.20, at $1000 I'll move up to $.25/$.50, and so on. Should be a nice little challenge for me to cost-effectively improve my cash game play, which needs some serious help. I'll probably start a blog around that time to track my progress. Quite looking forward to it!
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Posted 09 April 2007 - 02:15 AM

Oh and to top off the night: 86.5% VP$IP hits set over set on me for $200.

Oh, and AT vs T5 (!!!) on Ten high flop. 5 on river. Thanks very much for that.
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Posted 09 April 2007 - 02:38 AM

Oh no - THIS tops the night off:

JJ on QJx flop. All in. Turn Queen. River Ace. He has AQ.

I have never know anyone run worse. That's not me feeling sorry for myself - that's the honest truth.
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Posted 09 April 2007 - 03:22 AM

Jesus Christ, that last one is brutal. Can't fault him for getting the money in, really, especially at those levels, but that's a brutal beat. Have you thought of changing sites? Not saying that it's a problem with the site, but maybe for a change of pace, and a new player-base.
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Posted 09 April 2007 - 03:40 AM

Jesus Christ, that last one is brutal. Can't fault him for getting the money in, really, especially at those levels, but that's a brutal beat. Have you thought of changing sites? Not saying that it's a problem with the site, but maybe for a change of pace, and a new player-base.

There's so many players at Party, there's no issue there, plus it's a very easy site to multitable. Another $1,000 loss tonight. Just spent an hour or so going through the big losers I've had tonight in Pokertracker and, aside from the two set under sets I've had tonight, every single large loser I put my money in well ahead, indeed a handful I was over a 90% favourite with the money all in but I lost them. Nothing more I can do.

Another month, and I'd be up several thousand dollars already. Instead, I'm down about $1,000 from play. Oh well... I'll make it back. Ths standard of play is so bad this can't last forever.
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 01:47 AM

AAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH.

About half an hour in to a $2 tourney. Doubled up early on, sitting tight when this happens.

Starting Hand #79621816
Last Hand #79621727
Game Type: Hold'em
Limit Type: No Limit
Table Type: Tournament
Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now $30/$60
Button is at seat 5
Seat 1: maasn1983 - $2625
Seat 2: nick2u - $4440
Seat 3: Maximas - $330
Seat 4: AussieGuy83 - $1290
Seat 5: Toon22 - $3630
Seat 6: MrBlunted - $2955
Moving Button to seat 6
maasn1983 posts small blind ($30)
nick2u posts big blind ($60)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Ah As] to MrBlunted
Maximas calls $60
AussieGuy83 folds
Toon22 calls $60
MrBlunted raises to $180
maasn1983 calls $180
nick2u calls $180
Maximas calls $180
Toon22 calls $180
Dealing Flop [Jc 7s 8d]
maasn1983 bets $480
nick2u calls $480
Maximas calls $150 (all-in)
Toon22 folds
MrBlunted raises to $2775 (all-in)
maasn1983 calls $2445 (all-in)
nick2u folds
Returning $330 to MrBlunted uncalled
maasn1983 shows [Jh Kd]
Maximas shows [9c Ks]
MrBlunted shows [Ah As]
Dealing Turn [4s]
Dealing River [Js]
MrBlunted has Two Pairs: Aces, Jacks
maasn1983 has Three of a Kind: Jacks
maasn1983 wins $4920 from side pot #1 with: Three of a Kind: Jacks
maasn1983: suck it
maasn1983 wins $1500 with: Three of a Kind: Jacks
Seat 1: maasn1983 - $6420
Seat 2: nick2u - $3780
Seat 3: Maximas - $0
Seat 4: AussieGuy83 - $1290
Seat 5: Toon22 - $3450
Seat 6: MrBlunted - $330
End Of Hand #79621816

The bolded comment made me want to smash his fucking face in. At least win with a bit of dignity you cunt. This put him in lead of the tourney too. Then, to finish it about ten minutes later, after clawing my way back towards a grand:

Starting Hand #79624243
Last Hand #79624093
Game Type: Hold'em
Limit Type: No Limit
Table Type: Tournament
Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now $75/$150
Button is at seat 5
Seat 1: MrBlunted - $960
Seat 2: Av3nger - $7670
Seat 3: theloosescrew - $4450
Seat 4: mafrajr - $1335
Seat 5: mattydred - $3020
Seat 6: Jarazz - $1385
Moving Button to seat 6
MrBlunted posts small blind ($75)
Av3nger posts big blind ($150)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [8d Ac] to MrBlunted
theloosescrew calls $150
mafrajr folds
mattydred calls $150
Jarazz calls $150
MrBlunted calls $150
Av3nger checks
Dealing Flop [5d Ad 3h]
MrBlunted bets $810 (all-in)
Av3nger folds
theloosescrew calls $810
mattydred folds
Jarazz raises to $1235 (all-in)
theloosescrew calls $1235
MrBlunted shows [8d Ac]
theloosescrew shows [Kc Kd]
Jarazz shows [4h As]
Dealing Turn [8c]
Dealing River [2s]
Jarazz has Straight, 5 high
Jarazz wins $850 from side pot #1 with: Straight, 5 high
Jarazz wins $3180 with: Straight, 5 high
Seat 1: MrBlunted - $0
Seat 2: Av3nger - $7520
Seat 3: theloosescrew - $3065
Seat 4: mafrajr - $1335
Seat 5: mattydred - $2870
Seat 6: Jarazz - $4030
End Of Hand #79624243

JESUS. FUCKING. CHRIST.

I hate this fucking game sometimes.
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 07:35 AM

Harsh.
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#75 vgj_felix

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 10:28 AM

I don't like the 3x bb raise with AAs. No where near enough when two people have already limped. Your raise just attracted callers and with 4 other players going to the flop it was likely that you AAs would get crack. I would have been tempted to shove pre-flop or raise a massive amount to isolate maybe one player.

Saying all this I'm useless with AAs. After being cracked by 4d 9d in a cash room when I raised 40x bb pre-flop (he flopped a god damn flush) I've resorted to going all in pre-flop with them all the time. I still get callers and I still get shafted. JJ K10 and Q4 have rogered me so far.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 04:05 PM

I don't like the 3x bb raise with AAs. No where near enough when two people have already limped. Your raise just attracted callers and with 4 other players going to the flop it was likely that you AAs would get crack. I would have been tempted to shove pre-flop or raise a massive amount to isolate maybe one player.

Saying all this I'm useless with AAs. After being cracked by 4d 9d in a cash room when I raised 40x bb pre-flop (he flopped a god damn flush) I've resorted to going all in pre-flop with them all the time. I still get callers and I still get shafted. JJ K10 and Q4 have rogered me so far.

Felix

I'm the same. No matter what I do with them I get them rinsed. I think you're right, should have gone all in preflop, but tbh I suspect the twat would have called me anyway, he was aggressive as fuck. Cheers for the advice though ;)

I officially hate AA and KK.

*edit* Actually, now that I think about it, my hope was that someone would reraise so I could go all in, won't be attempting that again anytime soon.
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Posted 11 April 2007 - 04:48 PM

Saying all this I'm useless with AAs. After being cracked by 4d 9d in a cash room when I raised 40x bb pre-flop (he flopped a god damn flush)


;)

Now that just takes the piss ;)
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Posted 12 April 2007 - 08:01 PM

:(

This will teach me to slow play. Don't think I could have escaped anyway, I was putting him on the ten and a face.

Starting Hand #80352916
Last Hand #80351962
Game Type: Hold'em
Limit Type: No Limit
Table Type: Tournament
Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now $30/$60
Button is at seat 5
Seat 1: vermo - $3502.50
Seat 2: Blizz5 - $2895
Seat 3: MinnieMouse - $1800
Seat 4: zippyhall - $1335
Seat 5: SaschaZz - $790
Seat 6: superman21 - $2355
Seat 7: chloelauren - $1275
Seat 8: MrBlunted - $1320
Seat 9: kamikazequad - $3200
Seat 10: dipnut - $1380
Moving Button to seat 6
chloelauren posts small blind ($30)
MrBlunted posts big blind ($60)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [6c 5h] to MrBlunted
kamikazequad folds
dipnut folds
vermo folds
Blizz5 folds
MinnieMouse folds
zippyhall calls $60
SaschaZz folds
superman21 calls $60
chloelauren folds
MrBlunted checks
Dealing Flop [5s 5c Th]
MrBlunted checks
zippyhall bets $140
MrBlunted calls $140
Dealing Turn [Ad]
MrBlunted checks
zippyhall bets $140
MrBlunted calls $140
Dealing River [8s]
MrBlunted bets $480
zippyhall raises to $995 (all-in)
MrBlunted calls $980 (all-in)
Returning $15 to zippyhall uncalled
zippyhall shows [8d 5d]
MrBlunted shows [6c 5h]
zippyhall has Full House, 5s over 8s
zippyhall wins $2730 with: Full House, 5s over 8s
Seat 1: vermo - $3502.50
Seat 2: Blizz5 - $2895
Seat 3: MinnieMouse - $1800
Seat 4: zippyhall - $2745
Seat 5: SaschaZz - $790
Seat 6: superman21 - $2295
Seat 7: chloelauren - $1245
Seat 8: MrBlunted - $0
Seat 9: kamikazequad - $3200
Seat 10: dipnut - $1380
End Of Hand #80352916


Was gonna come over the top on the turn and decided against it, but I don't think it would have made a difference to the outcome of the hand, even if he had pushed all in then.

I have been getting fucked real good in the last week. Quite demoralising.
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#79 vgj_felix

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 10:52 PM

Nope, that's a tough one.

When you flop the paired part of the board for trips and you have a terrible kicker it's probably always an idea to bet on the flop to try and find out where you are. Problem is the guy could flat call you thinking you have a 10 in your hand. But if he raises you or goes all in at least you might be able to get away from it thinking you're out kicked. Then again this is a tournament so you need to get chips quickly. No, I think you were almost certain to go bust there.

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 11:11 PM

Yeah, reckon he would have just called me anyway if I had bet on the flop. The thought that he had the other 5 crossed my mind for about 0.000001 seconds when he bet, but I discounted it. Doh.
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Posted 14 April 2007 - 02:10 AM

If I bet flopped trips, no kicker, and I was raised on the flop, it'd really depend on the player for me as to whether I'd lay it down. A lot of players (myself included) will occasionally raise with a ten with a decent kicker here, to find out where they are. On that kind of flop, a lot of people will put out a feeler bet with a missed small to medium pocket pair, and given how that's more likely than someone having a five, trying to snap off the bet by raising with a ten is often successful, and can even get tighter players to fold their own ten, regardless of kicker.
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Posted 14 April 2007 - 08:06 PM

;)

This will teach me to slow play. Don't think I could have escaped anyway, I was putting him on the ten and a face.

Was gonna come over the top on the turn and decided against it, but I don't think it would have made a difference to the outcome of the hand, even if he had pushed all in then.

I have been getting fucked real good in the last week. Quite demoralising.

This hand is a shame, but it's not a bad beat, it's just a bit of a cooler. You put in all your money behind. Put in your stack seven times in a row with a more than 90% chance of winning and win only one of them. That's how I was rolling last week.
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Posted 15 April 2007 - 03:11 PM

Put in your stack seven times in a row with a more than 90% chance of winning and win only one of them. That's how I was rolling last week.

That is brutal.
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Posted 15 April 2007 - 10:40 PM

I just did my all in pre-flop tactic again with AAs today got called by a K5 donkey who rivered a flush.

Pretty much the next hand I raised 15xbb with KK got one caller who flopped two pair with a fucking 10 and a fucking 8 (offsuit).

That's about $100 lost on premium pairs getting out flopped by any two cards in the the last month.

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 12:11 PM

Even yesterday my AAs all in preflop lost 2 out of 3. One to QQ hitting a set, and one to KK hitting a set. Oh annoying! The other was against AQs (!!!) which actually flopped a flush draw and would have possibly had me throwing toys out of the pram if that had hit as well.
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 07:24 PM

And another SHOCKING beat with AA today. How many outs? Oh, 2...

Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: sobadithurts ( $ 41.06 USD )
Seat 1: benjo444 ( $ 106.65 USD )
Seat 2: Uffefh ( $ 99 USD )
Seat 4: ToniMusco ( $ 59.80 USD )
Seat 3: Dionvb ( $ 53.25 USD )
Seat 6: OESD100 ( $ 50 USD )
sobadithurts posts small blind [$ 0.25 USD].
OESD100 posts big blind [$ 0.50 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to sobadithurts [ Ah Ad ]

benjo444 folds.
Uffefh folds.
Dionvb calls [$ 0.50 USD]
ToniMusco raises [$ 2.50 USD]
sobadithurts raises [$ 7.25 USD]
OESD100 folds.
Dionvb folds.
ToniMusco calls [$ 5 USD]

** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 4d, Kd ]

sobadithurts bets [$ 12.50 USD]
ToniMusco calls [$ 12.50 USD]

** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ]

sobadithurts is all-In.
ToniMusco calls [$ 21.06 USD]

** Dealing River ** [ Ks ]

sobadithurts shows [ Ah, Ad ]two pairs, Aces and Kings.
ToniMusco shows [ Kc, As ]three of a kind, Kings.

ToniMusco wins $ 80.12 USD from the main pot with three of a kind, Kings.
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Posted 21 April 2007 - 05:02 PM

Hard and fast logic tells me you guts should be playing 72o. That's clearly where all the money is.
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Posted 13 May 2007 - 07:25 PM

Saw this one at the last Beer Hand Open in Action yesterday. I was just on the table and out of the hand already.

Player A raises pre-flop about 3xBB, Player B reraises all-in (was short-stacked). Player A calls and turns over QQ. Player B turns over AQo. Player A happy as Larry.

Flop comes Qxx. Job done. Fat lady singing... or so you'd think.

Turn comes A.

River comes A. ;)

Player B wins with full house (A over Q) over Player A's full house (Q over A).

Player A went out shortly after with another horrendous beat. He was really pissed off, but kept it in well. It was one of those hands that had people from the other tables coming over and asking what happened.
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Posted 13 May 2007 - 07:34 PM

I had an all in preflop with AA beaten by AQo just yesterday. Queen on the flop, Queen on the river.

I've given up even chatting about some of my bad beats now. They're just so bad it's ridiculous.

Couple of recent examples (at 200NL):

Raised JJ in SB, hit set of Jacks on KJT flop (2 hearts, one diamond, 1 caller). $27 bet into $30 pot, called. Turn a low diamond. I push all in to chase off any draws - I KNOW he doesn't have a striaght - over 1.5x pot at the time. He calls. River another diamond. He turns over AT diamonds for the nut flush. One card to come, over 1.5 times pot on the turn to put him all in, he calls with bottom pair, a gutshot and a flush draw.
Second one, AQs hits nut flush on turn, albeit on paired board. Raise up a total retard (plays 85% of hands and cannot fold anything), he calls. River 2. He has 22 and hits a full house.

Recently I've been getting about 10-15 of these every day, so I moved back down to 100NL. My table selection is amazing, my luck is hideous, and I can't be bothered with it anymore, hence this being my last month playing like this.
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Posted 14 May 2007 - 02:06 PM

Saw this one at the last Beer Hand Open in Action yesterday. I was just on the table and out of the hand already.

Player A raises pre-flop about 3xBB, Player B reraises all-in (was short-stacked). Player A calls and turns over QQ. Player B turns over AQo. Player A happy as Larry.

Flop comes Qxx. Job done. Fat lady singing... or so you'd think.

Turn comes A.

River comes A. :lol:

Player B wins with full house (A over Q) over Player A's full house (Q over A).

Player A went out shortly after with another horrendous beat. He was really pissed off, but kept it in well. It was one of those hands that had people from the other tables coming over and asking what happened.

Yep, he eventually went out with his KK beaten by AJ. Not a nice day for him.
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